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To: Reno232; Colofornian
No, he made a comment. I was asking him to explain that comment.

OK - you "made a comment" too. I haven't read every post on the thread, but I read yours. Explain "After All You Can Do" vis a vis the Grace of Christ and His words "It is Finished - John 19:30" for me.

Is that too hard?

You constantly ask Mormons to explain their beliefs, which we do on a regular basis.

HA!

No you do not!

You call every critic a "bigot" or a "hater", you contradict scripture, deny Mormon heresy, and then point fingers.

When we ask for you to explain your beliefs, all you can do is come up with “You Play Defense For Awhile!”?

You are reacting to me calling BS with your post. Now, you multiply the error.

I would think you would be proud of your beliefs & be willing to explain them rather than hide behind some nebulous guide to distract the argument.

You bet.

Ravi is a friend of mine.

Here is what I believe:

Ravi Zacharias - The Existence of God

Ravi reached out to the Mormon church, and spoke in Salt Lake. The leaders of Mormonism cynically used his appearance to try and justify their power. They reminded me of Pharisees in Christ's time.

There are lurkers here that not only look for our explanations, but yours as well. I asked questions. I would think they would be relatively easy to answer. Plain & simple.

You don't only "ask questions" as an innocent lamb, so drop that defense. You are a Defender of Mormonism, and it cannot be logically defended.

Let me put a stake in your argument. Joe Smith (your "prophet") took sexual pleasure in wives of men who followed him who were married to these same women!

If you are so blind to follow that - then you deserve your fate.

364 posted on 12/03/2008 4:39:52 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot; DelphiUser
First of all, I find it interesting that you point to one scripture, John 19:30 as the basis for your argument but yet don't address any of the scriptures I listed in re: to works.

You then state that we do not explain our beliefs & yet if anyone were to do a search on my posts, or Delphiuser, or most other Mormons that post here re: our beliefs, one would find your assertion to be quite erroneous. You then state that I call every critic a bigot or hater. Perhaps you can post excerpts of my posts where I call every critic a bigot or hater.

Lastly, I am an unapologetic defender of Mormonism & believe it is actually very logically defended. I would imagine you believe in your church & probably defend it vs. those not of your faith or beliefs as well. Not sure what your problem is there.

Your fallacious attacks on Joseph Smith have been gone over ad naseum here in prior threads as well as Delphiuser’s very cogent response in this thread.

I feel bad for the anger you have. It seems to virtually consume you. That's a shame. The liberals & MSM paint Christians as loons & zealots. With that being said, is it any wonder why when a minority of Christians here do the same thing to Mormons that they bemoan others do to them?

Again I would ask you, if you truly believe in your take on the scriptures, what makes your beliefs & interpretations right & others wrong? We're not the only Christians that have differences w/ your take. If you're correct, tell us why you're correct & why many others(i.e. non-Mormons)are wrong. If you choose to use the red herring that this is just a diversionary tactic, we will just conclude you don't have an answer.

Despite your angst against me & others here of my faith, I sincerely wish you the very best & hope you have a great Christmas season. It's a great time of year to reflect on all of our blessings & what Christ has done for all of us. You, me, & everyone. Cheers my FRiend.

395 posted on 12/03/2008 6:19:49 PM PST by Reno232
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