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Oil falls as gas prices hit 3-year low (elderly, children, foreign despots most affected)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/2/08 | Mark Williams - ap

Posted on 12/02/2008 11:51:28 AM PST by NormsRevenge

COLUMBUS, Ohio – Oil prices dipped again Tuesday and gas prices hit their lowest levels since January 2005 with the United States officially in a recession.

Analysts say prices at the pump may be bottoming out, though demand could fall even further in January with job losses reducing the number of people who drive to work.

Gas prices fell for the 20th week since the July 4th holiday and hit $1.811 per gallon, according to the government's Energy Information Agency.

Auto club AAA, the Oil Price Information Service and Wright Express said prices fell 0.8 cents overnight to $1.812, down 62.4 cents in the past month and $1.249 in the past year.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: energy; energyprices; gas; gasprices; oil; prices
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To: NormsRevenge

Finally, it has hit less than 2 bucks a gallon in my part of CA! It took long enough.


61 posted on 12/02/2008 12:51:55 PM PST by calex59
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To: trumandogz
...but this is bad news.

Not for you and your company.

You can just go to the Middle East, South America or China and work for the big bucks.

62 posted on 12/02/2008 1:12:32 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: Discontinued until further notice)
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To: Nathan Zachary

By the way, in all of Canada there are 172 oil drilling rigs operating (163 for the year average). Alberta and Saskatchewan typically have a little over 83% of the rigs, call it 136.

Just how long do you think it takes to set up a rig and drill a couple miles down, plus maybe a mile or two horizontally?

North America Rotary Rig Count - Current & Historical Data
http://investor.shareholder.com/common/download/download.cfm?companyid=BHI&fileid=253084&filekey=102531F1-08EE-435F-B3DA-675E4C66D45F&filename=US_Rig_Report_112608.xls
See all 13 Tabs in Excel Sheet


63 posted on 12/02/2008 1:18:09 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: trumandogz
I was there in 1986 when the market crashed.

Actually it "crashed" in 1987.

The rate of foreign investment doubled between 1986 and 1987, driving stock prices skyward. By August, the Dow Jones Industrials was up over 800 points which translated into a 41% in rise in value.

Just days before the 1987 crash, I cashed in my Dow Chemical stocks that I had gotten while working for Dowell in Texas.

Just in time, too.

A couple of days later it was trading for half of what I got.

I left the oilfields in the early eighties (1983) when gas got to under a dollar at the pump and layoffs were rampant.

Worked out well for me, I wanted to move back to the west coast anyway.

The oil business is like that.

Towns all over Texas are boomtowns for a while, and then almost ghost towns.

64 posted on 12/02/2008 1:22:24 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: Discontinued until further notice)
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To: Syncro

The oil market crashed in 1987.


65 posted on 12/02/2008 2:13:46 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
Are you sure you are not thinking about 1986?

Cushing, OK Crude Oil Future Contract 1
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/rclc1d.htm

66 posted on 12/02/2008 2:41:43 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: trumandogz
"Drill Here, Drill Now is Dead."

Fear not! Hyperinflation is just around the corner.

67 posted on 12/02/2008 2:42:19 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Meow.)
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To: NormsRevenge

It was as low as $1.49 just outside of Columbus, Ohio. I couldn’t believe it. Woot!


68 posted on 12/02/2008 4:29:31 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (The Middle East: We put the OIL in TURMOIL!)
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To: NormsRevenge
For those that haven't seen it, the USA National Gas Temperature Map is an interesting graphic.

Compared with this summer, the map colors haven't changed much, but the prices sure have.

69 posted on 12/02/2008 5:01:41 PM PST by upchuck (Oppressors can tyrannize only by achieving a standing army, a slaved press, and a disarmed populace.)
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To: upchuck
Prices that have changed.

LP Gas,,,,, Propane at the underground storage at Conway, Kansas,,, the spot price high in the July about $1.80 per gallon.

By November 28, 2008 the spot price had fallen over $1.00 per gallon to $0.78 per gallon.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/rpromcD.htm

70 posted on 12/02/2008 5:37:35 PM PST by TYVets
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To: Nathan Zachary

“Oh Bull crap. There were plenty around before the price broke $25 a barrel not to long ago, The Alberta tar sands project was well underway and going strong at $12 a barrel.”

The US and Canada are two different things. They responded to the Iran world oil interruption of 1979-80 as follows:

The Canadians wanted the tar sands to work, so they formed joint government-private companies. It has worked, and been profitable in the long run, at market prices.

The US did not do the same thing. Reagan STOPPED the equivalent US effort. So we never got the heavy oil-tar sands-oil shale industries up and running.

Most of us conservatives dislike government and praise private industry.

There has been a flaw: By our system, executives and shareholders alike were rewarded for short term performance, at the expense of longer term results.

However two examples can be shown for the impact of that preference: The US has no oil shale industry, and the once big three are years behind Toyota on hybrids.

Obama won partly because citizens are questioning the results of our private industries.


71 posted on 12/02/2008 5:40:35 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: trumandogz
Yes I know.

That's what I posted to you.

Along with the stock market.

But it crashed for you in 1986.

72 posted on 12/02/2008 6:34:16 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: Discontinued until further notice)
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To: thackney
Oh goodness.

The oil crash preceded the Stock Market crash.

It “crashed” for me in about ‘83.

It was on it's way down for several years, at least from looking at the board at well servicing companies.

Names kept disappearing from the bottom of the list and then mine was there.

And it disappeared and I was headed back to sunshine and redwoods!

73 posted on 12/02/2008 6:40:10 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: Discontinued until further notice)
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To: NormsRevenge

In Long Beach, there is regular gas available for $1.89/gal


75 posted on 12/02/2008 7:08:47 PM PST by dbz77
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To: thackney; Syncro
As I recall things started to look bad in 1983 when all people that I knew where "Land Men" or geologists were out of work. By 1986, when some told you "I am a geologist" it was if they said "I have terminal cancer." You just felt really bad for them and at that time there seemed to be no hope.

I was in college and my old man who was one damn fine chemical engineer got me a summer job on a rig in South Louisiana where I worked two weeks on and two weeks off. It was a great gig, good money and lots of time off.

One time when my two week break was over my girlfriend drove me from central Texas to south Louisiana to go back to work.

As we drove down into Calcasieu Parish I could not wait to show her the rig and kept on saying to her "We should be able to see the mast any second now!" Well, we got to that plank road over the marsh and there was no rig, no nothing, 6000 feet in the hole and they shut they whole thing down and hauled it away.

As we were driving away I saw this old Coon Ass who had worked in the S. LA fields for 20 years, never making it to Driller, he was missing four fingers and could not speak a lick of English. He just spoke Cajun with a little Italian and Spanish mixed in. There he was with his wife,kids and a couple dogs in his brand new F-150 and he was crying, balling like a baby.

"Time to get your $hit together and hit those books in college, Trumandogz!" I said to myself.

76 posted on 12/02/2008 7:09:32 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Albanese

Look what the Dollar has done against the Euro in the last six months.

That is a big part of the story.


77 posted on 12/02/2008 7:12:00 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
I am sure that is in the Dem PlayBook.

Actually, its Obama's plan. He wants to tax gas more heavily so that we'll use less. So with heavy taxes and gas prices themselves go up, it'll do exactly what Obama wants.

To place a heavy, unbearable burden on the people of the US.

78 posted on 12/02/2008 9:42:10 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: RobRoy
It should be modified to “Drill here, Drill now so we aren’t caught with our pants down next time.”

Yes, but that means the oil companies would have to be investing billions the government wants to loot in infrastructure and exploration for a commodity which has reduced demand, further undercutting future profit potential.

Oh. They do that now.

But when the price spikes, people rant and rave and want to take away the money which will fund those investments in the future.

79 posted on 12/03/2008 10:52:03 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
There are hundreds of thousands of capped wells waiting for the future when things are “right”.

Source, please.

80 posted on 12/03/2008 10:58:11 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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