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The Mumbai atrocity is a wake-up call for a frighteningly unprepared world
Jewish World Review ^ | 12/02/08 | Melanie Phillips

Posted on 12/02/2008 3:22:06 AM PST by Alia

Around the world, people have reacted with horror to the vile atrocities in Mumbai.

For three days, our TV screens transmitted images of carnage and chaos ...

Despite the fact that Western citizens were caught up in the attacks, there is nevertheless a sense that this was nothing to do with us — a horrible event happening in a faraway place.

Among commentators, moreover, there has been no small amount of confusion.

Were these terrorists motivated by the grievance between Muslims and Hindus over Kashmir, or was this a broader attack by Al Qaeda?

If British and American tourists were singled out over Iraq — which many assume is the motive for such attacks — why were Indians targeted in the Victoria railway station?

And why was an obscure outreach centre geared to Jews marked for slaughter?

Such perceptions and questions suggest that, even now, Western commentators still don't grasp what the free world is facing. This was not merely a distant horror.

We should pay the closest possible attention to what happened in Mumbai because something on this scale could well happen here.

But because we don't understand what we are actually up against, we are not doing nearly enough to prevent this — or something even worse — occurring; and if it were to happen here, we would be unable to cope.

The Mumbai atrocities show very clearly what too many obdurately deny — that a war is being waged against civilization.

It is both global and local. It is not 'our' fault; it has nothing to do with Muslim poverty, oppression or discrimination.

The Islamic fundamentalist fanatics use specific grievances — Kashmir, Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya — merely as recruiting sergeants for their worldwide holy war against all 'unbelievers'.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bombay; globaljihad; india; islam; jihad; melaniephillips; mohammedanism; mohammedanism122008; mumbai
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To: Hatter6

Too true. Some would still have died BUT not nearly so many.
A well armed populace helps prevent this kind of carnage.


21 posted on 12/02/2008 4:58:19 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: papertyger

Many more uses, as a flower holder.
As a companion.
As protection.
As a fun time.
And yes, to sometimes kill some who need killing.


22 posted on 12/02/2008 5:00:13 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Alia
In the US, and all over the world, but again, particularly here:

IT'S TIME FOR A RETURN TO THE OLD SCHOOL

23 posted on 12/02/2008 5:06:37 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Alia
The "unprepared world" got back slapped for racial profiling every time anyone of mid-eastern descent was pulled over, searched at an airport, questioned, etc. etc. We know by and large what these people look like, unfortunately a lot of peaceful people look like them too.

If a lot of middle-aged white grandmothers went on a killing spree, I would have no problem if they "profiled" me in order to catch the killers. But golly gee, we don't want to step on anybody's delicate little feelings.

24 posted on 12/02/2008 5:20:51 AM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: Alia
We ARE vulnerable. But the Left thinks such people can be appeased. They will learn the hard way that it isn't possible. The enemy, as Goldfinger told Bond, "I expect you to die." That is their operative message to the West. Mumbai was not the first nor it will be the last assault upon all that we treasure.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 12/02/2008 5:27:56 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Someone may have posed this question before, but is it coincidence that this occurred now, after Obama's victory and while lame-duck Bush sits in the Oval Office pondering his legacy? I believe this type of thing will become common as limp wristed "why can't we just all get along" Obama moves to OUR White House.

God, I miss Reagan.

26 posted on 12/02/2008 5:32:17 AM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: Alia
Here are some Democrats thoughts on how to deal with terrorism..............

"Islam does not sanction violence Extremist leaders and heads of state do. It's not the religion nor the masses. It's the leaders."

This idiot must have laid awake for days on end to come up with this.................

"We should listen to terrorism experts, psychologists, etc. and handle religion-based terrorism differently to the extent necessary if there really is a practical difference between how we have to respond to religious terrorism and other types of terrorism. But, at a political level, I don't think we should give creeps who target and kill innocent civilians because of some kind of ism the courtesy of taking their isms seriously. If a bunch of guys go out and torture a rabbi, the rabbi's wife and their house guests to death because they're Jewish, that's despicable. If they commit the same crime because the victims are communists, or capitalists, or citizens of Denmark, that's also despicable. If the creeps say they're killing in the name of Islam, Capitalism or some other belief -- well, that's a bunch of hooey. The reality is that they're killing because of glitches in their forebrains that we're too primitive to diagnose. From our primitive point of view, they're just a bunch of murderous lunatics. If they weren't murdering people in the name of Cause A, they'd probably be murdering people in the name of Cause B, or Q, or Z"

This guy speaks for most Democrats.............

"Treat terrorism as a crime to be policed and punished, not through "war' that breeds more terrorists by destroying civilian life."

All in all looks to me like most Democrats are cowards and niave fools.

27 posted on 12/02/2008 5:48:16 AM PST by skimask (Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: PistolPaknMama

Yes, that is what it is in my estimate. However, the devils advocate would say they were planning this maybe way back in the Democrat primaries, so it was not a given who the next president would even be when they started the planning. One thing is sure, there will be an INCREASE in attacks on American soft targets after he takes office, as they know he will be weaker than his predecessor and weaker than his 2008 opponent...that can be guaranteed. Think of all those saps thinking his election would bring World Peace and Love/Respect again for America worldwide. Our allies might like us more, but our enemies will disdain us even more, and what really counts is not how our allies relate to us, but how our ENEMIES do.


28 posted on 12/02/2008 8:03:41 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Shouldn't we form "Committees of Correspondence" thru Freepmail & V-Cards if FR is to be shut down?)
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To: Jim Noble; Alia
Here's my prediction from 9/13/01 of the direction Mr. Compassionate Conservative and his grownups would pursue.

I remember reading that thread at the time and thought your assessment was pretty much correct. I didn't comment since I hadn't yet signed-up for posting privileges to FR. Another aspect I remember was being surprised that that thread generated so little attention and commentary.

29 posted on 12/02/2008 8:23:06 AM PST by tarheelswamprat
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To: ought-six
An olive branch extended in the left hand is worthless without a sword in the right.
30 posted on 12/02/2008 9:09:55 AM PST by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: Elsie
How does one 'prepare' for things like this?

#1 - situational awareness.

#2 - concealed, or open, carry

#3 - don't let your government convince you that open borders are a good thing

But the #1 answer is situational awareness.
As an example, when I was in the military, stationed overseas, I got into the habit of taking a step to the side of the door when entering a business I had not been in before. I use several moments to determine the layout of the business, where the exits are, what types of cover are available, etc. I still do it today.
One time my daughter saw me do this and asked me what I was doing. I told her,
Several years later we were talking and she said that she knew she had taken my advice to heart when she was standing in a supermarket aisle, looking at potato chips, and the thought ran through her head, "Those chips aren't going to stop a bullet."

31 posted on 12/02/2008 9:17:49 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Alia

When America sits back and watches other people around the world slaughter each other, we are attacked because we didn’t step in and stop it. Even when there is no way way we could have stopped it as is the case with India and Islamic terrorists. When we do step in, we are criticized for stepping in. We can’t win. Sometimes I feel like erecting a one-hundred foot wall around the country and telling the rest of the world to go screw itself.


32 posted on 12/02/2008 11:06:22 AM PST by driftless2
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To: tarheelswamprat
Here's the prediction without the rest of the thread.
33 posted on 12/02/2008 12:02:39 PM PST by Jim Noble (I have read a fiery gospel, writ in burnished rows of steel)
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To: oyez
An olive branch extended in the left hand is worthless without a sword in the right.

You talkin' about conditions? We don't need no steenkin' conditions! Thus sayeth BHO.

34 posted on 12/02/2008 1:45:03 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: Joe Boucher

That was Killeen.


35 posted on 12/02/2008 1:47:36 PM PST by MartinStyles
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To: Alia

How many terrorist attacks in the world per day? 10, 100? Who would still be ignoring this?


36 posted on 12/02/2008 1:50:04 PM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: MartinStyles

Thanks,
I’m old and my memory is not as good as my wife’s . Ask her
she’ll tell ya.


37 posted on 12/02/2008 1:57:35 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: oyez

“An olive branch extended in the left hand is worthless without a sword in the right.”

So true, so true.


38 posted on 12/02/2008 5:13:32 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: skimask
I'm curious: Who said that which you've italicized in your post, pls?
39 posted on 12/02/2008 5:49:24 PM PST by Alia
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To: Alia
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/2/55458/9985

There is the whole thing. Some really disturbing stuff by the so called moral superior ones

40 posted on 12/02/2008 5:58:32 PM PST by skimask (Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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