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Russian analyst predicts decline and breakup of U.S. (RIA Novosti)
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Posted on 11/30/2008 7:24:39 AM PST by Srirangan

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To: Srirangan

He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.

It's a little hard to figure out what he is talking about -- there is a certain incoherence here. When he talks about "the South, with its Hispanics", one gets the impression he means the Southwest -- Arizona and New Mexico -- but then he excepts Texas. "The South, with its non-Hispanics" would have made better sense.

The South is and, since the middle of the 19th century and the submergence of the "indigenous" tribes (who also came from somewhere else, remember) always has been, biracial (unless you include Yankee migrants as an anthropologically distinct "race" of metrosexual Starbucks-slurpers, Homo sapiens starbuckensis).

And which "central" "poorer states" have large Indian populations? Which states is he talking about? How are their Indian populations significant demographically in a way that Arizona's and New Mexico's populations of Jicarilla and Mescalero Apaches, Navajos, Zunis and Hopis are not? Is he talking about the Rez residents in the upper Missouri valley? And how do we distinguish these states from the "northern" states that have "strong" influence from Canada? (I didn't know we were getting invaded by Molson's and Labatt's, by the way -- I thought the Canadians were apprehensive about "influence" going the other way.)

His U.S. geography is almost incoherent. But the idea has been advanced before, as in The Nine Nations of North America, which came out in the late 70's, about the time Andrei Amalrik was predicting, to my astonishment, the imminent breakup of the Soviet empire.

21 posted on 11/30/2008 8:38:17 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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I suppose they could not spell "arrested…"

They didn't do too well with "neighborhood" either.

22 posted on 11/30/2008 8:38:57 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: pepsionice

“Republic of the South”

That has a good ring to it. I’ll be moving down that way, hopefully soon.

23 posted on 11/30/2008 8:43:11 AM PST by CapnJack
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To: lentulusgracchus
"...Careful, Igor. Igor bad ghoul. Igor lose paw.

That's Sarah Palin's state you're talking about. You want to get stuffed and mounted?..."

Hehe, that was a great post...I loved the "Igor lose paw"...:)

(Palin speaking to the President of Coumbia)

24 posted on 11/30/2008 8:46:50 AM PST by rlmorel ("A barrel of monkeys is not fun. In fact, a barrel of monkeys can be quite terrifying!")
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To: imfrmdixie
As William F. Buckley would have pointed out, "Dangerous armed Rednecks" is redundant. Two points off for pleonasm, lol.

Noah Webster, author of the dictionary, wrote an account of the mustering-out of Gen. Washington's Continental Army. Contemplation of the motley, polyglot army gave him the idea for his dictionary. Among his comments was the observation that the Pennsylvania troops included German-Americans who not only spoke no English, but were accustomed, at home in their wooded valleys, to open fire at once when they heard English being spoken in the thicket, on the assumption that those thieving Scots-Irish (rednecks) were at it again.

25 posted on 11/30/2008 8:46:52 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Srirangan

What was that show that featured a small town in Kansas that survived after a series of calculated nuclear detonations in several American Cities? Jericho.

Question is, could there be a calculated finanacial demise of large cities rendering them moot and ineffective as influential resistance to a government plan that siezes power through martial law? Consolidation of the banking sector with socialist implications gets control of everyone’s money. Without money, the feds control every aspect of peoples lives. Food, rent, mortgage, cash, transportation. New currency forces exchanges that move cash stashes into the federal spotlight. The result is a federal power grab, a suspension of state rights, and a trashing of the Constitution.

Anyhow back to Jericho. There was the Eastern sector with DC influence, Western Sector, Cheyenne Wy. where the conspirators new government resided, and then Texas Republic stood on its own. I would definitely side with Texas and Free America needs to follow their lead.

What we need is more statehood influence and less fed interference. The Feds are incapable of solving anyones long term problems when they are the root cause.
The fixes being cooked up by the feds are dangerous to freedom and democracy. They will force America to lose our sovergn status and become a subject of a World who would like nothing more than to bring us down. Our politicians seem to be gladly complying with OUR wallets.

They want us to spend and borrow. We should hold our money and borrow absolutely NOTHING. The Feds are the ones who messed things up. Don’t give them what they want. Without our tax money they have no power or credibility.

26 posted on 11/30/2008 8:47:28 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: lentulusgracchus
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27 posted on 11/30/2008 8:50:16 AM PST by imfrmdixie
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To: Srirangan

Apparently he didn’t read this week’s Economist. He should be more worried about the future existence of his thugocracy.

28 posted on 11/30/2008 8:56:17 AM PST by Humvee (Beliefs are more powerful than facts - Paulus Atreides)
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To: Srirangan

I was just wondering. Did Igor predict the fall of the Soviet Union??? Huh??

29 posted on 11/30/2008 9:14:11 AM PST by ditto h
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To: Tax Government
If we return to greater independence of states and less top-down federal control, so much the better

I agree that less "top down control" is desireable. But....

Separate states without a Federal Union means we are easy pickins to foreign aggressors like Russia.

We need to preserve the Union for strategic reasons.

30 posted on 11/30/2008 9:15:05 AM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: SteamShovel

The nub of the matter is whether the Union is worth preserving. Stategically, yes, the Union is necessary but not at the current cost.

31 posted on 11/30/2008 9:52:26 AM PST by joeu01
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To: Srirangan

Our Russian comrade may have tapped into the breakaway movement in NC’s 11th congressional district.

There is strong sentiment there for splitting away from the current state of Perduistan and re-establishing the long vanished STATE of FRANKLIN.

That region of NC has no congressman, no representation in state government, even the Pelosi lapdog Dense Schuler is from the Volunteer State to their west.

Tight Lines Right Turns

32 posted on 11/30/2008 11:00:33 AM PST by palmerizedCaddis (There is a place left on earth where some folks can still walk on water!!!!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I guess a state with “strong Canadian influence” is any one that has more Tim Horton’s than Starbucks, eh?

33 posted on 11/30/2008 1:14:56 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: hinckley buzzard

They’re just following the old rule, “I before E, except after C.” There’s no C in “neighborhood.”

34 posted on 11/30/2008 1:16:58 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: pepsionice

Montgomery, Alabama, was the first capital of the Confederacy. They moved the capital to Richmond and lost. Maybe they wouldn’t have if the capital had stayed in Montgomery.

35 posted on 11/30/2008 1:19:49 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with Horton's .....

But as an alternative index of Canadian cultural penetration, I'd accept a ratio >1.0 of Molson's + Labatt's stacked in the grocery's mass display, to the sum of Bud + Miller Lite.

How 'bout that? ;)

Here in Texas, it's [Corona + Tecate]/ [Miller Lite + Shiner].

36 posted on 11/30/2008 5:57:35 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: rlmorel
Nice pic of Sarah. Doesn't post up well on my banged-up configuration file setup, but one does get the requisite impression ..... of a pit bull wearing fresh lipstick.
37 posted on 11/30/2008 6:12:34 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Tim Horton’s is a widespread coffee-and-donuts chain in Canada that was acquiring some outlets in the US a few years ago. I think it’s geared to the average person, in contrast to Starbucks which seems geared to people who think they’re better than the average the typical Obamaniac.

38 posted on 11/30/2008 6:21:32 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Though Texas was once an independent republic.

39 posted on 12/01/2008 12:18:01 AM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: o_zarkman44

I believe Secessions won’t start for another 2 to 7 years. It really depends on upcoming elections and whether ACORN is still stuffing the ballot box. People will have finally had enough and most states will secede. Only the West Coast with the exception of Alaska, most of the Great Lakes states, and the East Coast from Maryland north will remain a part of the Old Union. The Freeloaders will immigrate to the Old Union while businesses will move to the New Union. The Old Union will eventually collapse.

40 posted on 11/29/2009 11:48:15 AM PST by DHSMostWanted (Vote Ben Nelson out of office in 2012)
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