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Wind Power Exposed: Energy Source is Expensive, Unreliable and Won’t Save Natural Gas
energy tribune ^ | Nov 25 2008 | staff

Posted on 11/29/2008 8:47:20 AM PST by saganite

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To: tiki
but we are surprised because they have now approached us again

They've probably convinced the gummint to pay for the hard parts of the job.

41 posted on 11/29/2008 11:54:07 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: FrankR

“Meanwhile, we sit on enough oil, gas, and coal in the United States to get us by for hundreds of years - until a technology allows us to actually come up with an alternative to those fuels”.

Rumor has it that one of the first things the new congress will do is reinstate the offshore drilling ban and pass a law that permanently locks up ANWR.


42 posted on 11/29/2008 12:13:58 PM PST by saganite (I for one welcome our new Socialist masters /s/)
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To: Right Wing Assault

“Don’t blame the search engine for this one. The poster changed the title by leaving out the word ‘exposed.’ “

The poster who beat me to this article had to shorten the title just as I had to because of the limit of 100 characters for titles set by FR. Interestingly the other poster came up with exactly the same solution that I did.


43 posted on 11/29/2008 12:19:00 PM PST by saganite (I for one welcome our new Socialist masters /s/)
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To: xcamel

Oh really. Well I’ll tell you what is ignorant are the people that won’t even try anything new or even giving anything new a chance without whining about it. Its the ole just give me my oil attitude that gave us $4.25 a gallon gas. One thing for sure, high gas prices will be back. Its not always about being the absolute cheapest fastest right now source of energy, but how does it affect the country and its security in the long run. Is wind the only answer, probably not but its one of many. If we’ve learned anything from $148 dollar oil is that no one source of energy should ever be relied upon so much that we can’t get along without it.


44 posted on 11/29/2008 12:51:06 PM PST by Racer1
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To: Racer1

Wind isn’t any kind of answer at all and the only thing you need to do to prove that is to look at the enormous govt subsidies required to even get anyone to build them. You constantly see reports about the amount of installed windpower but the reality is that they only produce at approx 30% of the installed power and the power produced is necessarily fickle since it depends on wind. This article sites one windfarm in England that produces at 7% of it’s rated capacity. In the real world where market forces decide what gets built and efficiency is a key requirement these things wouldn’t get off the drawing board. You need to consider that the billions spent on these windmills would be much better allocated by the market and produce better results thereby further lessening our dependence on foreign oil if the market were allowed to work. It’s sad to see the level of ignorance of how a functioning capitalist market should work, especially here on FR.


45 posted on 11/29/2008 12:58:49 PM PST by saganite (I for one welcome our new Socialist masters /s/)
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To: saganite

Add to that the possibility of wind power surges knocking out computers etc and you have a poor substitute. We were hit by a wind power surge last summer that killed my printer.

We are looking at energy slavery for decades until someone has courage to talk drilling/nuclear.

Pray for W, Palin and Our Troops


46 posted on 11/29/2008 12:59:16 PM PST by bray (All thats left of my 401K is a little Change and very little Hope.)
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To: Racer1
Your statement: “Yes, send your dollars to the Arabs today.”

Which is indeed, just plain ignorant.

Try to educate yourself on where the vast majority of US fossil energy comes from, and you won't make such idiotic remarks.

47 posted on 11/29/2008 12:59:39 PM PST by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: xcamel

Actually its sarcastic truth because that is what most people as a result of their actions and attitudes end up doing.


48 posted on 11/29/2008 1:07:39 PM PST by Racer1
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To: SouthTexas
"I’ not one of those conspiracy types, but it happened about the time all of their patents ran out. "

That might well have happened, but all we heard was "the-sky-is-falling...ban freon". Ahhhh, but they've got some new stuff that won't eat up the ozone...and we're going to hve to replace every cooling system in the United States.

It just didn't make sense...if the patents ran out, then there was no need for a big campaign to "ban" the stuff.
49 posted on 11/29/2008 2:42:48 PM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: FrankR

I’m in that industry and know the hype all too well.

Can it be proven, I doubt it, but it sure was convenient.

Would it be hilarious if the greenies learned that their whole agenda was based on corporate malfeasance?


50 posted on 11/29/2008 3:19:53 PM PST by SouthTexas (Remember, it took a Jimmy Carter to bring us a Ronald Reagan!)
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To: saganite

Sort of makes you wonder how the Germans beat us to inventing guided missles and almost beat us in inventing the bomb. Only a fool would fall for wind-power as anything but a very minor source of power...like in a wind-mill for pumping water for livestock for example.


51 posted on 11/29/2008 6:34:41 PM PST by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Black Friday warning: video games waste energy and contribute to global warming
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Green Screens: Adjusting TV’s Settings Can Save Energy (TVs Cause Global Warming)
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Posted on 11/27/2008 7:12:11 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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Battery Life Breakthrough Could Increase Li-Ion Capacity by 1000%
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Wind Energy Reaches 43 Percent Of Spain’s Electrical Demand
North American Windpower | 11/25/2008
Posted on 11/25/2008 9:55:16 AM PST by Uncledave
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65 posted on 11/28/2008 7:44:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2138161/posts?page=65#65


52 posted on 11/29/2008 10:09:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: All

Here’s a radical idea: Why not use OIL for our energy?


53 posted on 12/07/2008 5:36:16 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: G Larry

“Another very recent study cited the impact of off shore wind turbines to the marine life. The distortion to air flow over the ocean surface, disturbs the patterns of thermal currents and very small marine life, which in turn impact all of the larger, dependent marine life.”

Things like this are where I’m concerned when it comes to wind power. You can’t generate energy from something without removing it from the source (i.e. gasoline to heat, wood to heat, water flow to electricity, etc.). I wonder if any studies have been performed on the environmental impact of the entire western plains covered with windmills (as in Pickens’ dream). I’ve got to believe that the land in the immediate wake of these farms will be desert land, and further down the pike, I see could see serious drought conditions forming.

Wind is the primary climate generator on the planet. While high-level winds may or may not be impacted, local climate at the surface will almost definitely be (and that could cascade to the higher atmospheric levels as well).

Then again, I’m not a blond bubble-headed meteorologist...

...so what do I know?


54 posted on 12/07/2008 5:47:24 PM PST by Magnatron
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