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US officials fear Indian response to attacks
Rediff ^ | 29 Nov., 2008 | Rediff

Posted on 11/29/2008 3:06:56 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins

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To: Lady GOP
Formed in 1991 in the Kunar province of Afghanistan, the Lashkar-e-Taiba is the military wing of the Markaz-ud-Dawa-wal-Irshad (MDI), an Islamic fundamentalist organisation of the Ahle-Hadith sect in Pakistan.

The Lashkar's agenda, as outlined in a pamphlet titled "Why are we waging jihad", includes the restoration of Islamic rule over all parts of South Asia, Russia and even China. Further,the outfit is based on a sort of Islamist fundamentalism preached by its mentor, the JuD. It seeks to bring about a union of all Muslim majority regions in countries that surround Pakistan.

The outfit had claimed that it had assisted the Taliban militia and Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaeda network in Afghanistan during November and December 2002 in their fight against the US-aided Northern Alliance.

Role in Afghanistan

Guantanamo detainee Khalid Bin Abdullah Mishal Thamer Al Hameydani's Combatant Status Review Tribunal said that he had received training at Lashkar e-Taiba.

The Combatant Status Review Tribunals of Taj Mohammed and Rafiq Bin Bashir Bin Jalud Al Hami, and the Administrative Review Board hearing of Abdullah Mujahid and Zia Ul Shah allege that they too were members or former members of Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Also, the Lashkar is claimed to have operated a military camp in post-Sept 11 Afghanistan, and extending support to the ousted Taliban regime.

http://www.reference.com/browse/Lashkar-e-Taiba

21 posted on 11/29/2008 4:50:40 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins; ajay_kumar

Stratfor:

RED ALERT - Possible Geopolitical Consequences of the Mumbai Attacks
Stratfor ^ | November 26, 2008
http://hosted.verticalresponse.com/238172/b1e369fcda/542002341/8a35ff2c9a/

Summary

If the Nov. 26 attacks in Mumbai were carried out by Islamist militants as it appears, the Indian government will have little choice, politically speaking, but to blame them on Pakistan. That will in turn spark a crisis between the two nuclear rivals that will draw the United States into the fray.

Analysis

At this point the situation on the ground in Mumbai remains unclear following the militant attacks of Nov. 26. But in order to understand the geopolitical significance of what is going on, it is necessary to begin looking beyond this event at what will follow. Though the situation is still in motion, the likely consequences of the attack are less murky.

We will begin by assuming that the attackers are Islamist militant groups operating in India, possibly with some level of outside support from Pakistan. We can also see quite clearly that this was a carefully planned, well-executed attack.

Given this, the Indian government has two choices. First, it can simply say that the perpetrators are a domestic group. In that case, it will be held accountable for a failure of enormous proportions in security and law enforcement. It will be charged with being unable to protect the public. On the other hand, it can link the attack to an outside power: Pakistan. In that case it can hold a nation-state responsible for the attack, and can use the crisis atmosphere to strengthen the government’s internal position by invoking nationalism. Politically this is a much preferable outcome for the Indian government, and so it is the most likely course of action. This is not to say that there are no outside powers involved ­ simply that, regardless of the ground truth, the Indian government will claim there were.

That, in turn, will plunge India and Pakistan into the worst crisis they have had since 2002. If the Pakistanis are understood to be responsible for the attack, then the Indians must hold them responsible, and that means they will have to take action in retaliation ­ otherwise, the Indian government’s domestic credibility will plunge. The shape of the crisis, then, will consist of demands that the Pakistanis take immediate steps to suppress Islamist radicals across the board, but particularly in Kashmir. New Delhi will demand that this action be immediate and public. This demand will come parallel to U.S. demands for the same actions, and threats by incoming U.S. President Barack Obama to force greater cooperation from Pakistan.

If that happens, Pakistan will find itself in a nutcracker. On the one side, the Indians will be threatening action ­ deliberately vague but menacing ­ along with the Americans. This will be even more intense if it turns out, as currently seems likely, that Americans and Europeans were being held hostage (or worse) in the two hotels that were attacked. If the attacks are traced to Pakistan, American demands will escalate well in advance of inauguration day.

There is a precedent for this. In 2002 there was an attack on the Indian parliament in Mumbai by Islamist militants linked to Pakistan. A near-nuclear confrontation took place between India and Pakistan, in which the United States brokered a stand-down in return for intensified Pakistani pressure on the Islamists. The crisis helped redefine the Pakistani position on Islamist radicals in Pakistan.

In the current iteration, the demands will be even more intense. The Indians and Americans will have a joint interest in forcing the Pakistani government to act decisively and immediately. The Pakistani government has warned that such pressure could destabilize Pakistan. The Indians will not be in a position to moderate their position, and the Americans will see the situation as an opportunity to extract major concessions. Thus the crisis will directly intersect U.S. and NATO operations in Afghanistan.

It is not clear the degree to which the Pakistani government can control the situation. But the Indians will have no choice but to be assertive, and the United States will move along the same line. Whether it is the current government in India that reacts, or one that succeeds doesn’t matter. Either way, India is under enormous pressure to respond. Therefore the events point to a serious crisis not simply between Pakistan and India, but within Pakistan as well, with the government caught between foreign powers and domestic realities. Given the circumstances, massive destabilization is possible ­ never a good thing with a nuclear power.

This is thinking far ahead of the curve, and is based on an assumption of the truth of something we don’t know for certain yet, which is that the attackers were Muslims and that the Pakistanis will not be able to demonstrate categorically that they weren’t involved. Since we suspect they were Muslims, and since we doubt the Pakistanis can be categorical and convincing enough to thwart Indian demands, we suspect that we will be deep into a crisis within the next few days, very shortly after the situation on the ground clarifies itself.

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Comment:
“If you look into the history of creation of Pakistan, you will find out it was formed by partitioning India when independence was won from British rule. The sole criteria for formation of Pakistan was religion of Islam. Areas which were predominantly muslim became Pakistan territory with the exception of Kashmir province whose king at the time chose to join with the new India. Pakistan has a national official religion, Islam. Pakistan and Islam are inseparable twins.”
15 posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:38:30 PM by ajay_kumar http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2139364/posts?page=15#15


22 posted on 11/29/2008 5:12:45 AM PST by Matchett-PI (2008 = Was The Year of the Toilet for 'rats (they just don't know it yet).)
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U.S. Media Ignoring Obama Mistakes With India/Pakistan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2139473/posts

Naturally, the U.S. media is following the terrorist crimes in Mumbai, India, as well they should. But, the attacks seem to be the Old Media’s only interest where it concerns India and Pakistan, of late, for they’ve completely ignored the several mistakes that Barack Obama has already made with his attempts at foreign policy with the two embattled nations.

Back on November 11, I noted that Obama had made his first mistakes [1] with both India and Pakistan by mishandling early talks with their leaders (or not having them at all, as the case may be). During his first major effort to contact foreign leaders as president elect, Obama called Pakistan’s President Asif Ali Zardari but neglected to call India’s Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh. This short shrifting did not sit well with the Indian government.

Then, Obama appointed to his transition team a woman named Sonal Shah whom the Pakistanis say has ties with a violent Hindu Nationalist Party in India that they claim is responsible for a rampage in Gujarat, India that killed many Muslims and Christians.

Worse, during his outreach to Pakistan’s Zardari, Obama promised that he’d help settle the trouble between India and Pakistan over Kashmir and he did this without asking India if his help was wanted by India. As a result, India got its nose out of joint and immediately said that Obama’s “help” with Kashmir was not wanted.

Well, more on Obama’s unwanted offer with the Kashmir problem has been reported by various Indian and Pakistani news agencies. An Indian official has reiterated that Obama’s help with Kashmir was neither asked for nor wanted. External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee refused Obama’s offer again [2] at a recent press conference held with Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi.

The Indian Express news group reports that on Wednesday Mukherjee “shot down US President-elect Barack Obama’s suggestion that former US President Bill Clinton could prod India and Pakistan into making peace over Kashmir.”

The remarks were also reported at KashmirWatch.com [3].

On Jammu and Kashmir, Mukherjee rejected any third party interference, when asked to comment on the reports that the US president-elect was moving to appoint Bill Clinton as his emissary to settle Kashmir issue. “There was no question of the intervention of third party. Kashmir is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan. It is part of composite dialogue process,” he stressed.

These are some embarrassing stumbles on India and Pakistan and shows that Obama won’t be able to flash his dazzling smile and have the world’s leaders just fall at the feet of The One happy to follow his policy ideas.

Curiously, I can’t find this news reporting Obama’s thus far failed attempts at diplomacy in any American news source. Why do you think that is?

Source URL:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/11/28/u-s-media-ignoring-obama-mistakes-india-pakistan

Links:
[1] http://conservablogs.com/publiusforum/2008/11/11/obamas-mixed-signals-for-pakistan-and-india/
[2] http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=India+rejects+Obama+proposal+on+Kashmir&artid=vmR2QH1blCM=&SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&MainSectionID=wIcBMLGbUJI=&SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=&SEO=Sarabjit%20Singh,%20kaama,%20clintonshmir,%20ob
[3] http://www.kashmirwatch.com/showheadlines.php?subaction=showfull&id=1227779825&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&var0news=value0news


23 posted on 11/29/2008 5:18:41 AM PST by Matchett-PI (2008 = Was The Year of the Toilet for 'rats (they just don't know it yet).)
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To: rfreedom4u
Hopefully now India can take out the trash.

And while they are at it, perhaps Israel can punt Iran into the night as well.

It don't get any better than this.

Old Milwaukee Beer Commercial (1986)

24 posted on 11/29/2008 5:22:38 AM PST by ED BALSAC (This is BALSAC. Over and out.)
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25 posted on 11/29/2008 5:29:58 AM PST by Matchett-PI (2008 = Was The Year of the Toilet for 'rats (they just don't know it yet).)
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To: Dawnsblood

And a whole bucket of other RINO garbage.


26 posted on 11/29/2008 5:43:42 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: ED BALSAC

A Country Boy Can Survive


27 posted on 11/29/2008 5:54:10 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: iopscusa
India is just another powder-keg POS country that may blow the whole damn ME!

Not everything is about you.

28 posted on 11/29/2008 6:28:14 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ("Real thanksgiving happened over a month ago" - canadagirl@metronewsone)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Why are they fearful? What did we do after the terrorists hit us on 9-1-1????? Huh???? Right, we bombed, invaded, and killed terrorists. So, India has the same right to hit back.


29 posted on 11/29/2008 6:30:19 AM PST by RetiredArmy (NOTE TO REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS: PLAY THE CONSERVATIVE CARD!!!)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Me, Me...only me. I want my bailout too!


30 posted on 11/29/2008 6:36:47 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
American intelligence agencies were quoted as saying that the group has received some training and logistic support in the past from Pakistan's powerful spy service ISI, and that Pakistan's government has long turned a blind eye to the LeT camps on the Kashmir border.

Watch how, in the ensuing days, India becomes the "Bad Guy" for the MSM in all this. Right now, it seems India has as much against Pakistan as America had against Afghanistan after 9/11. After all, the Taliban didn't plan or carry out the attack on the WTC, it was their "guest" Osama. Even closer ties between the Pak government (ISI) and the terrorists here.

Of course, any move against Pakistan will be opposed by the Left. What would you do in the Indians position. I know that I would retaliate against the Terror group and their "trainers".

31 posted on 11/29/2008 6:58:26 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: little jeremiah

Yup, because whenever war is on the way people, no matter what, prefer warriors in power. The reason we have Obama is because we’ve had eight years of domestic security and everyone has become accustomed to that.

Like when after WWII the Brits tossed out Winston Churchill, then voted and kept Thatcher until the Cold War crisis was over.


32 posted on 11/29/2008 7:15:30 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, I'm A Racist and Proud Of It!)
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