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Teen critical, four wounded in separate East Oakland shootings
Oakland Tribune ^ | 11/28/2008 | Harry Harris

Posted on 11/29/2008 2:37:46 AM PST by CE2949BB

OAKLAND — A 15-year-old gang associate was in critical condition Friday after he was wounded twice by his own gun during a struggle with a 32-year-old he pointed the weapon at, police said.

The man, who police said was a former paratrooper in the Honduras army, was not hurt and waited for police to respond to where the confrontation happened. He gave a statement to investigators before he was arrested on suspicion of assault while the district attorney's office determines whether he acted in self-defense.

Police would not release the name of the teen or the adult pending the district attorney's review.

The shooting happened just before 2 a.m. Friday in the 3700 block of Foothill Boulevard in the Fruitvale district. The area is a known hangout of certain gang members and police said the 15-year-old is associated with the gang.

The man was on his cell phone when he was confronted by the teen, and possibly some other youths, said Officer Robert Trevino, who is investigating the case with Sgt. Drennon Lindsey.

The teen pointed a pistol at the man, who had never seen him before, and used a street term to see if he was in another gang, police said. Police said the man is not a gang member and has only been in Oakland eight months, seeking work.

When the teen was momentarily distracted by a passing car, the man grabbed the gun and the two began struggling over it, Trevino said. During the struggle the gun went off twice, hitting the teen in the neck and shoulder, police said.

He was taken to a local hospital by friends where he underwent surgery. The man waited for police to come to the scene and gave them the pistol.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; eastoakland; fruitvale; gang; gangs; honduras; oakland; oaklandpride; paratrooper; sfbayarea
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1 posted on 11/29/2008 2:37:46 AM PST by CE2949BB
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To: CE2949BB

Looks like he messed with the wrong dude.


2 posted on 11/29/2008 2:47:28 AM PST by ketelone
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To: CE2949BB

Give him a medal.


3 posted on 11/29/2008 2:48:17 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: CE2949BB

> He was taken to a local hospital by friends where he underwent surgery. The man waited for police to come to the scene and gave them the pistol.

The paratrooper should never have been arrested.


4 posted on 11/29/2008 2:48:23 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Its like a scene out of a Charles Bronson “Deathwish” movie.


5 posted on 11/29/2008 2:50:16 AM PST by ketelone
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To: ketelone

> Its like a scene out of a Charles Bronson “Deathwish” movie.

(grin!) Yeah. I miss Bronson.

In a similar flavor, “Taxi Driver” is one of my personal favorites!


6 posted on 11/29/2008 2:53:09 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: CE2949BB

I didn’t know Honduras had airborne, but this guy might have been the whole unit by himself.


7 posted on 11/29/2008 2:54:44 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
"The paratrooper should never have been arrested."

Are you kidding? he was defending himself. That's a federal offense in Marxist America, land of the humanoid slave drone, home of the Marxist dictatorship.

8 posted on 11/29/2008 2:56:19 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: ketelone

Seems like to me...we ought to bring in a regiment of Honduran paratroopers in LA...thats the kind of solution that would fix the gang problem there.

And for those who want to make a comparison between Mexicans and Hondurans...having known a couple of Hondurans...the guys who say that they are upset and very likely to screw you up...are the Hondurans. Its always personal thing to them...if you challenge them. So if you ever get into a argument with a Honduran...think long and hard about the value of the argument. It might not be worth it.


9 posted on 11/29/2008 3:00:25 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: DieHard the Hunter
The paratrooper should never have been arrested.

Well, the police and DA need to feel needed, too.

10 posted on 11/29/2008 3:03:46 AM PST by Grut
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To: CE2949BB
he was wounded twice by his own gun

Too bad they weren't fatal shots.

11 posted on 11/29/2008 3:03:50 AM PST by csvset
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To: Nathan Zachary

Gee, another of the Messiah’s storm troopers got shot.


12 posted on 11/29/2008 3:04:49 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: ketelone

I guess the taxpayers are graciously picking up the medical tab for this dud?


13 posted on 11/29/2008 3:21:43 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: seemoAR

> Gee, another of the Messiah’s storm troopers got shot.

ALPHA! OMEGA! ALPHA! OMEGA! ALPHA! OMEGA! ALPHA! OMEGA!

Because of Obama, I’m inspired to be a Storm Trooper!


14 posted on 11/29/2008 3:24:56 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: ketelone

I guess the local should have known not to bring a gun to a Honduran knife fight.


15 posted on 11/29/2008 3:48:48 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: CE2949BB

Live by the gun, die by the gun.


16 posted on 11/29/2008 4:20:54 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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"A 15-year-old gang associate"

"GANG ASSOCIATE"!!!???!!

What is he a Kiwanian?

17 posted on 11/29/2008 4:26:29 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Does anyone know if the paratrooper needs help with bail money? I’d like to donate some if he needs it.


18 posted on 11/29/2008 4:33:56 AM PST by MissEdie
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To: CE2949BB

Does the newspaper think that using “teen” instead of “thug” to describe the assailant is going to make readers feel sorry for him? If they do, it didn’t work on me!


19 posted on 11/29/2008 4:44:15 AM PST by Tax-chick ("And the LORD alone will be exalted in that day." (Is. 2)
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A 15-year-old gang associate

gang associate?
Is that like Walmart associate, Kmart associate?
How about some truth and honesty in the reporting media?
How about calling a crinimal a criminal? A scumbag a scumbag?
By rising these people up from the bottom feeder position they should be considered in, you in turn lower the rest of society, by closing the gap that should exist between the bottom feeder and civilized human beings.


20 posted on 11/29/2008 4:49:14 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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