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Second Stonewall: One gay man's rant on the state of Queer Equality (Hurl-icious!)
Q Notes ^ | November 29, 2008 | Matt Comer

Posted on 11/29/2008 12:21:07 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Gay State Conservative

We’re queer.Number four proved


21 posted on 11/29/2008 4:39:30 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: DieHard the Hunter
“The majority doesn’t have the right to vote out of existence the civil rights of the minority. In other words, your so-called “right” to “majority rule” ends where my nose begins.”

Tell that to the mothers who've aborted approx. 50million babies in America.

Those children had rights. They were not “parasites”. The woman's body ENDED at the umbilical cord. If she takes dope or smokes cigarettes or drinks alcohol, she will harm her baby that is growing inside. Anyone knows this. “Help prevent birth defects”.

Can you be “just a little bit pregnant”? Answer that question and you will arrive at the answer of “when life begins”.

22 posted on 11/29/2008 5:19:19 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63

No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen

By DINITIA SMITH
Published: September 11, 2001

He (Bill Ayers) also writes about the Weathermen’s sexual experimentation as they tried to ‘’smash monogamy.’’ The Weathermen were ‘’an army of lovers,’’ he says, and describes having had different sexual partners, including his best male friend.

23 posted on 11/29/2008 5:26:33 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dnag! Couldn't they have the Gay Out a day earlier? It'd be a nice birthday present for me.

;0

24 posted on 11/29/2008 5:38:01 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter. Before the late bell. When I close the door.)
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To: Claud
My favorite argument to use when "discussing" this issue with uber libbies was this: You love "natural" and "organic". You buy only those things "organic". There is nothing "organic" about being gay; the parts are mismatched. So tell me again which part of gayness is organic? Made to work in its "natural" state and order?

So, they'd figure massive retaliation by bringing up the gay gene argument.

So, I'd counter with genetic engineering in re vegetables, and what part of that troubles them?

Being gay is not organic to the species.

Using human feces to fertilize crops may be organic, but does the human body eating such crops, rebel? Always does.

Most the true organies agreed with my position. And this is how I was able to discern the naturales from the brainwashed in the SF Bay Area.

25 posted on 11/29/2008 5:43:27 AM PST by Alia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Works for me!
26 posted on 11/29/2008 6:27:40 AM PST by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Opps!... Day without a queer.... Works for me!
27 posted on 11/29/2008 6:29:03 AM PST by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
" This is America. The majority doesn’t have the right to vote out of existence the civil rights of the minority."

Strictly speaking, the above statement is absolutely correct. We are a democracy in the way that we elect our leaders. However, our form of government is a constitutional republic. It is a constitutional republic for such reasons as what is stated above.

However, the application of it to the gay rights movement is incorrect. No one is taking away any of their "rights". What is going on in this country is the gays are trying to re-define what marriage is. Everyone else is saying no, you can't redefine marriage. A legal marriage has always been between one man and one woman. There are many states in our country that allow for legal unions so that they can have legal rights for wills and hospital visitations. The true agenda of the gay left is that they want acceptance as normal. Look, we in America are tolerant of their lifestyle. We don't believe that someone should be beat up or discriminated against simply because they are gay. However, we don't accept it as a normal lifestyle just as many other lifestyles are deemed abnormal. They are wrong to try to force their lifestyle on us as normal.
28 posted on 11/29/2008 6:43:41 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden (I)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
What is going on in this country is the gays are trying to re-define what marriage is.

Not really. That is just the emotional front for the real agenda, which is getting tax and insurance benefits presently granted to marriage partners. If we gave them that, they would shortly shut up about marriage.

29 posted on 11/29/2008 6:50:51 AM PST by slnk_rules (http://mises.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am very, very tired of people that define themselves by what the do in bed. I have an acquaintance who goes by “J....Gts. G is the first letter of her/his last name,ts is for trans-sexual. I NEVER would identify myself as P..cs. I’ll leave the cs to your imaginations.


30 posted on 11/29/2008 6:59:05 AM PST by BruceysMom ("Where knowledge is folly...")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Second Stonewall: One gay man's rant on the state of Queer Equality
Q Notes, November 29, 2008, Matt Comer

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31 posted on 11/29/2008 7:08:24 AM PST by Condor51 (Obama believes in Karl Marx. I believe in Sun Tzu.)
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32 posted on 11/29/2008 7:09:46 AM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: squidward
He doesn’t want equal rights, he wants special rights.

In the words of the old Gilbert & Sullivan lyric,

"I want what I want when I want it!"


33 posted on 11/29/2008 7:26:15 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: slnk_rules
Not really. That is just the emotional front for the real agenda, which is getting tax and insurance benefits presently granted to marriage partners. If we gave them that, they would shortly shut up about marriage.

But you are so wrong. Their tantrums for financial benefits are just a ruse, to be used as leverage to get what they really want. It's fairly obvious, if not sometimes subtly suggested, what the homo-activists want: full acceptance by society, forced by law onto those who won't accept it by conscience.

34 posted on 11/29/2008 7:42:40 AM PST by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: zarodinu
Only a major religious revival or some other enormous cultural shift could halt the process.

Gays turned entertainment into a "gay-friendly" closed shop by cabalistic influence and control (example: Bob Geffen) and distributed gay propaganda to the nation for 30+ years through Hollywood and, more importantly, the Big Three television networks.

With wider choice, heterosexuals don't have to sit still for gay content and propaganda. With the loss of their infotainment oligopoly, homosexuals lose a captive vehicle of cultural influence.

Real choice and real competition in entertainment and information markets will force homosexual propagandists to compete with reality for mindshare. They'll lose, just like Communists lost in eastern Europe, because at the end of the day, their message is counterfactual, countercultural, counterproductive, and contra naturam.

35 posted on 11/29/2008 7:50:07 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: fwdude

It doesn’t even end with acceptance of homsexuality. It ends with the end of all moral judgements over all sexual pairings regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s).

That is the Sex Positive Agenda as espoused by Reich, Kinsey, and the so called feminist movement.

The slippery slope only ends in the gutter.

Acknowledging same sex marriage as an equal construct opens the door to teaching the “norming” of homosexuality at all grade school levels.

This is NOT about the actions of consenting adults in private. The Gay-Lesbian Task Force has already pushed for an end to the “discriminatory” nature of laws that prohibit people having sex in public restrooms in parks. There is nothing about restricting “the act” to adults or even to keeping it behind closed doors.

Meanwhile the Brits have put a webcam in the home of a heterosexual couple to see that they are “good parents” and have tacitly “promised” to turn off the bedroom cam to give them some “privacy” at times. I don’t hear the Lavender Mafia talking about bedroom police there.

Lawrence v. Texas was a farce weakly “defended” in court by a RINO District Attorney who was later shamed from office. The original arrest stemmed from a dispute between 3 homosexuals. A spurned lover made a 911 call against them alledging there was assault going on inside the apartment. The door was unlocked when the police arrived. The men continued with the sex act when asked to stop by police on the scene (they engaged in an act of same sex sodomy and did not pause from the action when asked so they could deal with the responding officer’s questions).

Since homosexuality itself did NOT carry a jail term, I am assuming that the men were arrested that night for not cooperating with the officers. The men had previous arrest records for drugs and other crimes. The caller was prosecuted and jailed for his false 911 call, he was later assaulted and had a pending court case for that assault against one of the 2 men and was later murdered before the trial went to court (it is still an unsolved murder).

The arrest gave the homosexual lobby a rallying point, with claims of “bedroom police” and from DAY ONE they said they would push to overturn the laws through the courts. I have always been skeptical of the motives of the caller and of former DA Chuck Rosenthal (he insisted that he had to prosecute even if he didn’t agree with the law, yet he showed other areas, like in the case of gun rights, that he showed he didn’t give a damn about what the laws said, he would prosecute gun owners and let THEM appeal their charges since Chuck did not agree with the laws permitting people to carry guns in their cars).


36 posted on 11/29/2008 7:58:01 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Others are talking about a new wave of inspiration and the death of a “passive era” of LGBT lobbying and advocacy."

"Passive era"???? When??? Not since before the 1960s.

The narcissism of far too many "gays" leads to a very myopic, introverted view of the world, which is, in too many cases, a self-made myth.

37 posted on 11/29/2008 8:02:20 AM PST by Wuli
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To: weegee
I'm afraid it is every bit as bad as you say it is. Thanks for expounding on my first post.
38 posted on 11/29/2008 8:06:50 AM PST by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
What is going on in this country is the gays are trying to re-define what marriage is. Everyone else is saying no, you can't redefine marriage. A legal marriage has always been between one man and one woman.

By using the courts to hand down unappealable, final decree laws in their favor, gays are working furiously to overthrow democracy through judicial review in forum-shopped courts.

They are said to have at least one closeted associate justice on the Supreme Court ready to help them win the case of their dreams, which will hand down such a decree to all fifty States of the Union, criminalizing anyone who disagrees with the homosexuals -- including entire churches and anyone who utters any of the offending lines in the books of Genesis and Leviticus.

A Canadian divine has already been prosecuted for preaching Leviticus in his own pulpit. Gays hope to do that here -- to turn "non-reconciling" (i.e., "full Gospel") churches into the legal equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan.

The gay agenda on marriage is to destroy it. Marriage is heterosexually normative; it underscores the normality of heterosexual couples having children together and implicitly rebukes the sexual practices of homosexuals.

39 posted on 11/29/2008 8:09:30 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: weegee
I didn't know that Chuck Rosenthal was that big a dildo on gun rights. You mean he was prosecuting CHL holders? Or just people who were carrying weapons in reliance on the law about travellers?

I also didn't know the mystery caller in the Lawrence case had been murdered.

I was under the impression that the Lawrence case was a setup, homosexual-rights groups having already been in court challenging the Texas statute (see Baker vs. Wade 1981, here: http://www.qrd.org/qrd/religion/anti/cameron/baker.v.wade.txt )

40 posted on 11/29/2008 8:34:40 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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