Posted on 11/27/2008 12:43:11 PM PST by ckilmer
No, I have not personally viewed Obama’s passport.
Passport requirements - proof of US citizenship
You can prove your US citizenship with one of the following:
Original Birth Certificate (if born in the United States);
or Old (undamaged) passport;
or Original Certificate of Citizenship or FS-240, DS-1350 ( if born outside the US );
or Original Certificate of Naturalization issued by the Immigration and Naturalization Office.
If Obama used an FS-240 or ds-1350 form indicating that he was born outside the US or if he has been naturalized by the INS, those records would be on file at the US State Department.
Found this.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/21/obama.passport/index.html
Why can’t journalist find this stuff — and ask questions?
VERY INTERESTING COMMENT FOUND HERE:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23736254/
Quote
State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the violations of McCain and Clinton’s passport files were not discovered until Friday, after officials were made aware of the unauthorized access of Obama’s records and a separate search was conducted.
End of Quote
Please note that Obama’s passport was not violated, only his records. . . .
Question remains: Does Obama have a U.S. passport?
Question: Is it a federal offense to submit a forged document to obtain a passport? Perhaps he DOES have a U.S. passport and he lied to get it.
Maybe this is another reason that Obama is so intent on not being forthcoming.
Hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm
Can an American citizen apply for and receive an Indoneasian passport? He certainly had one.
Why isn’t anyone looking into this passport question?
Passport files of candidates breached
Records of Clinton, McCain, Obama inappropriately accessed, officials say
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23736254/
my theory on that hacking was hitlery minions did it; I bet they discovered he was a foreigner too but no way to get proof off of an illegal hacking.
I figured it out long after everyone else did.
***Don’t you remember that during the primary campagin Obama travelled to Iraq and to Afghanistan to visit the troops on a US passport and he spoke in Berlin on a US passport as well.***
Then why doesn’t he show it to prove that he’s a natural born citizen?
Actually the reason the whole passport “Gate” story died a swift death was it was discovered that the break in to his files were done by the employees of an Obama Adviser.
It’s sad that the press just refuses to do their job.
Interesting quote from Obama at that site:
“One of the things that the American people count on in their interactions with any level of government is that if they have to disclose personal information, that it stay personal and stay private,” Obama said in Portland, Oregon.
“And when you have not just one but a series of attempts to tap into people’s personal records, that’s a problem not just for me but for how our government is functioning,” he said.
I guess this only applies to Obama, though, and not to others like, oh, for example Joe the Plumber.
The American People want to know, who sent you?
Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints — none! There is no Obama documentation — no records — no paper trail — none — this can’t be an accident.
Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released
Certificate of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released — Counterfeit
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
***You got it because you’re her mom. If obuma’s mother went she’d get his too (if she was alive). It’s unrelated parties that can’t get access.***
Yes, that’s true. I was making the point that a birth certificate CAN be obtained by someone other than the “birthee,” but Hawaii says ONLY the “birthee” can get it. Interesting. Hawaii is liberal, but the governor is a Pubbie. One wonders whose political career might be at stake.
“why doesn’t he show it to prove that he’s a natural born citizen?”
I’d not heard the details of this - it sounds a little suspect.
“State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the violations of McCain and Clinton’s passport files were not discovered until Friday, after officials were made aware of the unauthorized access of Obama’s records and a separate search was conducted.”
look at the post above yours, why can’t anybody respond to it?
Deo volente
Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born citizen. He is the legitimately elected President of the United States.
Obviously this is not a simple question. Tens of millions of words have been written arguing as to the meaning of the Second Amendment, a much simpler and direct issue.
One should not need to be a Constitutional lawyer or a forensic linguist to ask a simple question.
High Res Facsimiles - National Documents
"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of the President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
Questions abound and will be debated forever. What distinguishes assertion from uninformed speculation or unfounded opinion is boundless. Googling "birthcertificate" will yield hundreds of thousands of these; not very useful.
Obviously, the framers of the original document knew what they meant, although they failed to consider that a couple of hundred years later ignorant people would interpret "welfare" as the world of FDR (google FDR and Supreme Court) or LBJ.
As examples of critical ambiguity, does the child of an American Diplomat serving overseas lose Citizenship? Obviously and clearly not, if born within the American Embassy coumpound.
How about an ordinary citizen traveling overseas who gives birth? A different, less obvious set of circumstances.
And finally how about a native born American citizen who has expatriate status, and who might or might not have de facto or de jure renounced American citizenship and gives birth?
The remarkable thing about this debate is how trivial a matter it seems to be for many, including News Networks, radio personalities and commentators, as if the entire issue no longer matters.
Most, I assume, view it as another fringe "conspiracy theorists" subject not worthy of discussion. This may be due to the moonbat nature of conspiracy theorists, but in this case the messenger is irrelevant.
The least that the skeptics of the importance of citizenship can do is verbalize exactly, or even approximately, why the subject is not worthy of discussion, or even comment.
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