Who could be behind the Mumbai attacks?

The South African Mercury / Reuters ^ | November 27, 2008

[Deo volente]

Excellent post! Shines the light of truth on this death cult disguised as a religion.

We’ve been at war with these maniacs for some 14 centuries now. The stakes are nothing less than the survival of the West.

[Tommyjo]

Nothing do to with Somali pirates. This is internal terrorist groups inspired by Al Qaeda.

[Cronos]

I beg to change your last sentence "the stakes are nothing less than the survival of the West civilisation"

[Cronos]

These aren’t internal terrorist groups — they came by boat from Pakistan.

[woofie]

How did you know?

[volslover]

I meant the group behind the attackers who have the money, not the attackers themselves who are just stooges. Chechens have been playing with the Pakis lately and the Taliban and hence Al Quaeda. That area all has nukes except Afghanistan who has caves. So, India, Pakistan, Iran all nukes. No, it still smells like the Chechen group that is Paki connected but yes, without a doubt Al Quaeda as well. And yes,the USA and the UK are the usual people to complain about and harass but that too was a smoke screen, this was an attack on the heart of the financial area of India and on their tourism industy. Americans and Brits were just pawns to play with.

[Tommyjo]

That might be the method of attack, but the Deccan Mujahidin is a splinter group from the internal Indian Mujahidin.

[volslover]

The other thing about India, both the USA and the UK shipped off alot of jobs to India. India was emerging from poverty. Besides the Chechens playing with Al Quaeda in Pakistan, you got Uzbecks too doing the same. Pakistan has already destablized and that’s their goal now is destablize India. With India being destablized, who is strong enough in the area to stop Iran or Al Quaeda. China or Russia are not going to jump in that mess. Area can’t stablize without India. And there is the Kashimir issue and Kashmir has strong religious signficance for several relgions in the area but I don’t think this is about Kashmir. I think the intent was to destablize India and shake them up. If they harassed Americans and British people, even better and if there are bombings going on, Americans and British won’t go there. Without the outsourcing jobs from the USA and the UK and without the tourism industry, India sinks back into economic hell and will be unable to watch itself from more than one border. Yea, it is Al Quaeda but they are not alone this time and they are not done. This time they got help and in my opinion, I think the Chechens and Uzbeks who are now in Pakistan are playing with Al Quaeda on this one. I think India isn’t done hearing from them but I also think they will strike in other areas now. Islam does go up in that area too you know and also across the Chinese and Russian borders up through there. No peace in that area without India and their actions will truly inspire India to fight back.

[dennisw]

You are tough on Islam but 100% right.
Islam is an evil trance powered by sin and murder

The dumb hypnotized followers of a false prophet. No good can come from this

[dennisw]

You can't pass that off by saying the OT says to kill Amalekites. the Koran says to kill infidels at all times, the OT's missive is clearly time-indicative. Islam also makes it a point to say that to die in jihad is holy and the very philosophy of that cult has caused this incident.

Who is the Jewish prophet who killed the Amalekites?
This is King David and Jerusalem is called the City of David
He is not held up as a perfect man who all Jews must emulate
The Jewish prophets were men who were a mix of good and bad

While mass murderer Mo is held up as the perfect man who lead the perfect life (criticize him and get killed) who must be emulated by Muslims in all times and places and is a worthy example for all mankind to follow

[Cronos]

Good point — Mo is supposed to be the perfect man, so all ‘slime need to emulate him, by marrying 6 year olds and consummating it when the 6 year old girls are 9 years old. They also need to be brigands and rob caravans with no respect for holy days. They also need to marry their daughters-in-law. They also need to “take” women after first killing the women’s husband and father in front of their eyes. They also need to make contradictory statements to worship the 3 daughters of allah. They also need to believe that the sun revolves around the earth (tenet of faith from the Hadiths). They also need to turn on groups that supported them when they are done with it. THey also need to murder and cause mayhem wherever they go. They also need to destroy, destroy, destroy, not create

[Cronos]

I’m not really tough on Islam. If you see my later post I’ve given facts about why this is a false philosophy that preaches death and mayhem in a most illogical way. It started out as Mohammed’s way to unite various South-Western Arabic tribes as a political force, but then it grabbed bits and pieces of other religions while not building on anything.

[Cronos]

That might be the method of attack, but the Deccan Mujahidin is a splinter group from the internal Indian Mujahidin

That's just a red herring -- the photographs show Punjabi looking faces: no one from the Deccan looks like that. Secondly, the terrorists were heard talking to each other in Punjabi and Urdu. Thirdly, the first terrorist captured said that he was from Faridkot in Pakistan. There is no Deccan Mujahidin, that's just to throw the scent off (in a particulary bad fashion).

I need to also note that at least a quarter of those killed, it seems, were Muslims too -- Indian Muslims.

[dennisw]

Good point — Mo is supposed to be the perfect man, so all ‘slime need to emulate him, by marrying 6 year olds and consummating it when the 6 year old girls are 9 years old. They also need to be brigands and rob caravans with no respect for holy days. They also need to marry their daughters-in-law. They also need to “take” women after first killing the women’s husband and father in front of their eyes. They also need to make contradictory statements to worship the 3 daughters of allah. They also need to believe that the sun revolves around the earth (tenet of faith from the Hadiths). They also need to turn on groups that supported them when they are done with it. THey also need to murder and cause mayhem wherever they go. They also need to destroy, destroy, destroy, not create

With all due respect what you say applies to 20% of Muslims.
Most are lazy and not so serious about their twisted "faith"
Most Muslims will not make Jihad but they do make more Muslim babies to swamp Europe, Israel, Lebanon, India, Kosovo, Russia and more

The real Islam is exactly as you portray it and 20% of Muslims are real Muslims because they do what Muhammad did
A fine example being the mass carnage in India in the last few days perpetrated by Muslims
Personally -- I would waste Mecca Medina Qom and be done with them
80% chance this would be the end of Islam

[dennisw]

I need to also note that at least a quarter of those killed, it seems, were Muslims too -- Indian Muslims.

Jihadists don't care if Muslims get killed in collateral damage from Muslim terrorism
They will always say that these Muslims are going straight to heaven because they are martyrs

[volslover]

They speak many languages in Pakistan just like they do in India and surrounding regions. Urdu is just on of many along with English

[volslover]

I don’t believe that the Deccan Mujahidn did anything of this significance either. They could be the suicide fodder of those who actually attacked if anything at all. Maybe that’s what they mean about being responsible for the attack. To me those pictures look like Sri Lankans but they say they don’t know who the pictures are yet and some could be undercover cops. And not all Chechens and Uzbeks look Russian either. When I say Chechen, I am not talking about all of Chechnya like the Russians do but some splinter group. But the way it went down, matches up with the signature of some of their attacks in Russia and both Uzbeks and Chechens splinter groups have been playing with the Taliban and Al Quaeda. The way the attack happened has the Chechen signature if you look at what they have done prior attacks. This attack was far more organized and sophisticated (except for the flight lesson) than 9/11. The looking for British and Americans was to scare off tourists (we are more senstive to this) and the call centers and all of the other outsourcing personnel who are from these countries working there. Americans and British spend money, especially Americans when they go abroad since we are the only ones who tip among other spending habits. The fact they got a few Isarelis in the meantime indicates an international network connection of some type but I don’t see that as really planned but just happened since many Indian Moslems were killed too. Their goal was to take out the only stable country in the region to the point of not being able to defend itself from attacks from multiple borders. If Americans and British leave and do not put in anymore money into that economy, India will sink.

[Cronos]

you're right -- the goal was to take out the only stable country in the region.

I would disagree with you about them looking Sri-Lankan, their noses are more northern hooked/Roman-type noses.

Also, would disagree that the Jewish centre attack was incidental. That was planned -- the terrorists wanted to strike at tourists and Jews and they also wanted to kill as many Indians on the way (witness the spraying of bullets at the VT train terminus)

[Carley]

I consider islam a garbage ‘religion’ based on lies and misrepresentations. Nothing more than a cult.

I just wanted to point out that there are dangerous despots everywhere that ought not be ignored or given a pass.

[Cronos]

Valid point about dangerous despots. However, those despots are one-off cases. Here we have a philosophy that has produced thousands of such despots and hundreds of massacres through the centuries. Those one-off Mugabes and Kim Jong Ils can be handled, but a multiple century murder like Mo has to be dealt with differently