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NBC covers the BC case but with a smokescreen
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Posted on 11/26/2008 5:40:19 PM PST by dascallie

They keep mis-stating that Hawaii claimed Obama was born there--they did not, only that his birth cert is on file.

Background: Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. Since Hawaii issues “Certificates of Live Birth” to children not born in Hawaii and “Birth Certificates” to children who are born in Hawaii, the only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama’s original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.

Article: DUO TAKE OBAMA BIRTH CHALLENGE TO COURT

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; lawsuit; no2008election; notamerican; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; our1stkenyanprez
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1 posted on 11/26/2008 5:40:19 PM PST by dascallie
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lawyer(s) will challenge every thing Obama does until he gets this BC BS cleared up.


2 posted on 11/26/2008 5:42:46 PM PST by library user
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Keep the heat on. It’s a ‘Constitutional Thang’, ya’ know. Many people have shed blood and died for her.


3 posted on 11/26/2008 5:44:13 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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Then, on Oct. 31st, the director of Hawaii's Department of Health issued a statement, proclaiming that he had personally seen and verified that the state has "Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record," which shows that he was born there.

I'm sorry. I read it twice to see where the guys says "Born in Hawaii."

4 posted on 11/26/2008 5:46:06 PM PST by nufsed
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That has been the traditional thing with the media.

Stating that “there is a birth certificate” makes the media, who has forgotten something called INVESTIGATION when it comes The One, they infer that means he was born there.

Someone needs to get the statute out as often as possible that Hawaii, due to the new statehood, allowed people to register who were born outside the state IN Hawaii up until 1972.


5 posted on 11/26/2008 5:52:25 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record,” DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.

Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.

“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” Fukino said.


No mention of what is on THAT BC....no claim he was born in Hawaii. Why did they only create a Certificate of Live Birth (COLB—which Polarik debunked as a fraud) to put on Factcheck? Why not a create a “Birth Certificate” with the hospital, doctor, weight length etc of every universal US BC?

So much mumbo jumbo...by design of course.

There is a REASON Obama does not release this thing.


6 posted on 11/26/2008 5:52:38 PM PST by dascallie
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You notice a person can’t respond to comments left by posters at that site? And they get to vet anything you submit. Therefore it’s just a site for dem lib readers to jack off nbc and feed their lying site.


7 posted on 11/26/2008 5:52:57 PM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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Check out this Certificate of Hawaiian Birth.

It's a photo ID certification (including identifying marks) absolutely confirming that an indivual was born in Hawaii.

Surely, the President-elect can come up with one of these documents.


8 posted on 11/26/2008 5:53:36 PM PST by henbane
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I’ve read that statement online and wonder why someone bothers to say they saw his BC and he’s good to go. Do they think that we will just take their word for it? If its a-ok, then don’t be secretive...show all.


9 posted on 11/26/2008 5:55:01 PM PST by Doug TX
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I like it when a governmental official says we have no tangible interest in whether or not a president-elect is a natural born citizen. Like a judge saying we have no standing as voters in the election of the president.


10 posted on 11/26/2008 5:55:19 PM PST by nufsed
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That woman was very old at birth. And where in the womb do you pick up glasses?


11 posted on 11/26/2008 5:56:35 PM PST by nufsed
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More and more info is coming out that Obama was born in Kenya. Regardless, he lost citizenship when, as a minor child, his mom and stepdad got him Indonesian citizenship- a requirement to school in Indonesia.

There is a claim that Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate is a forgery.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


12 posted on 11/26/2008 5:56:41 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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We need to keep to our Constitution and refuse to permit forces aligned with osama hussein to subvert the intent of our forefathers to keep our nation a Republic. Obamanation, we demand you show your original birth certificate.


13 posted on 11/26/2008 5:58:19 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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Do you mean as in “no, I won’t pay the new higher income tax because the federal law that raised the rate was signed into law by a man claiming to be president who does not hold the requisite qualifications to serve as president?”

Etc. and so on, with every single new federal law passed or presidential order issued?


14 posted on 11/26/2008 6:04:02 PM PST by Notwithstanding (Obama/Biden: the "O" stands for Zero Executive Experience & Zero Accomplishments)
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That entire "standing" dodge is entirely bogus. In the case of danger of violation of our Constitution,

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

it is We the People who have "standing".

Let's see some leftist judge/lawyer argue their way around that!!!

15 posted on 11/26/2008 6:15:44 PM PST by TXnMA (Chief Justice: "To administer this oath would violate my oath to uphold the Constitution.")
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I seriously believe than most poiliticans and judges make up their mind on their decisions and then say whtever convoluted thing they have to say to justify it.


16 posted on 11/26/2008 6:17:41 PM PST by nufsed
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That woman was very old at birth. And where in the womb do you pick up glasses?

LOL!

Notice that this Certificate covers two points:

!) It verifies that the person pictured was born in Hawaii

2) It verifies that the person pictured is entitled to a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth--not a Certificate of Live Birth, which seems to be reserved for those residents of Hawaii who were not born there.

The fudged-up digitized green E-Certificate of Live Birth offered by the Obama campaign has an entry showing an Obama birth in Hawaii.

If the disticntion made by the Photo ID Certificate is valid, then Obama's weird green digital E-certificate presents a contradiction in terms.

Live Birth Certificates are reserved for Hawaiian residents not born in Hawaii--yet the Live Birth certificate has an item stating Obama was born in Hawaii.

17 posted on 11/26/2008 6:24:08 PM PST by henbane
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Isn’t it 1909? In 52 years they didn’t change the design or the information?


18 posted on 11/26/2008 6:32:15 PM PST by nufsed
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The certificate was issued on Dec. 5, 1967 certifying the birth in 1909


19 posted on 11/26/2008 6:53:05 PM PST by two-edged-sword (If pro is the opposite of con what is the oposite of progress?)
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thanx


20 posted on 11/26/2008 6:54:31 PM PST by nufsed
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