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To: stockpirate
Berg tried to stop the election, which was not going to take place. The question now, will the Justices actually request Obama show his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH?

Supreme Court Justice David Souter’s Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship. “I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate,” says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. “They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect.”

Most of all and in my ever so humble opinion, this should have never been an issue or taken this route. Seems the person running for president of the United States would know they had to be a natural born citizen and this was a given until the Democrats decided to implement a political "coup de etat". With Democrats around, there can never be any loopholes with anything.

18 posted on 11/26/2008 1:39:58 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Paige

If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship. “I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate,” says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. “They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect.”

Most of all and in my ever so humble opinion, this should have never been an issue or taken this route. Seems the person running for president of the United States would know they had to be a natural born citizen and this was a given until the Democrats decided to implement a political “coup de etat”. With Democrats around, there can never be any loopholes with anything.”

You are a breath of fresh air for those of us who want the Constitution to be followed and those of us who think that NObama is a Hoax- from the jump.

IMO, NObama has known all along he is not eligible, and he has stonewalled any and every attempt to get this issue off the table.

Spending all this time and the money for lawyers- (none of which seem to have a single drop of red American blood on this topic) tells me even more that NObama knows he is a shill for the Dems.

Almost a BILLION dollars spent to get a job that pays $400K, and NObama must have known all along.

All this mess doesn’t even begin to scratch the surface of the topic of all the money coming to NObama from all over the world, in defiance of election campaign laws.


29 posted on 11/26/2008 2:35:44 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Paige

Well put and thanks for the added information. I am following this issue but you made a couple points I haven’t heard or thought of.


47 posted on 11/27/2008 2:21:37 PM PST by stockpirate (Compassionate Conservatism = Republican Socialism.)
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To: Paige
-- the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari ... At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate ... --

That's incorrect. A Writ of Certiorari is an order from a superior court to an inferior (subordinate) court, demanding that the lower court transfer the case to the higher court. Asking for a Writ of Cert (petitioning for the writ) is asking the higher court to take the case. Berg has asked SCOTUS to take the case away from a lower court.

The mechanism for asking an appellate court to "take the case," where the appeal is not available as a matter of right, is a petition -- a request, if you will. Opponents to the request may file counterarguments, if they want to. But they aren't obliged to. The only thing due on Dec. 1 is a rebuttal to the petition for SCOTUS to take the case. There is absolutely no requirement that Obama present a birth certificate, or even a counter-argument.

53 posted on 11/30/2008 6:27:46 AM PST by Cboldt
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