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To: gleeaikin
Here is another link on exactly the problem you are mentioning:

Mumbai attacks: Tracking British Islamists is an immense task for MI5

Excerpt: MI5 has identified about 2,000 individuals who pose a direct threat to national security and public safety and believes the number of potential terrorists living in this country could run to 4,000.

The vast majority will have Pakistani links through their family background but will have been born and brought up in this country. They will have been radicalised often through contact with an extremist cleric at a mosque and as a result of internet contact with other jihadis.

Invariably, they will have been to Pakistan at some point where they will have come into contact with militants belonging to Al Qaeda or Kasmiri groups like Jaish-i-Mohammed.

However, even when someone is suspected of terrorist links, it can be difficult to keep them under surveillance once they leave Britain.

2,243 posted on 11/28/2008 11:24:31 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

What every sane “westerner” (and Indian) needs to understand is that every last “radicalized” Islamist is a ticking bomb waiting to go off.

We have to focus like a laser on the known “radicalized” individuals and, yes, prosecute them for their associations as a “conspiracy” against humanity, bar them from re-entry, prosecute for “ideas” as well as actions, etc. We need more stringent anti-terror laws.

It is hard for liberalism-saturated westerners to grasp, but everyone who believes in violent jihad IS already an enemy of civilization. By treating them with kid gloves and pretending that we must wait until they “act” we are giving known future terrorists the entree to every hotel, restaurant, train station, airport, etc. It’s only a matter of time until they act.


2,247 posted on 11/28/2008 11:57:27 AM PST by Enchante (Countless Innocents in Mumbai, India Now Face the "Religion of Peace" in Action)
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To: ScaniaBoy; jeffers
You know how after 9/11 we knew the world had changed....we just went thru another of those type moments.

This terror attack was and is like no other the world has ever seen.. we just witnessed an infantry assault on a major city.

The world is never going to be the same.

The multi-layered aspect is mind blowing.

2,254 posted on 11/28/2008 12:13:48 PM PST by Dog
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To: ScaniaBoy
Invariably, they will have been to Pakistan at some point where they will have come into contact with militants belonging to Al Qaeda or Kasmiri groups like Jaish-i-Mohammed.

That don' mean nuthin'.

Barak 0bama went to Pakistan when he wuz 20...

2,290 posted on 11/28/2008 1:06:49 PM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: ScaniaBoy; All

“radicalised often through contact with an extremist cleric at a mosque...”

This is one of the points that the author Ed Husain made. Also, MI5 has a much smaller staff than our FBI relative to population if I am not mistaken. Another point with regard to the influence of cleric’s is that there are those in the New York area who do the same kind of thing. Also in norther Virginia there is a Saudi financed Islamic school that has been the cause of controversy and raised questions about course content. I think that most Western countries have laws about “contributing to the delinquency of minors”, and I think that some of this mosque and school content would clearly fall within that category if minors are present. A good point for legal action.


2,412 posted on 11/28/2008 5:35:29 PM PST by gleeaikin
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