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To: pnh102

Here’s another set of considerations:

Student pays $8K for classes per semester and takes 5 classes. That’s about $1,600 per class. In undergraduate classes you can have up to 100 kids in a class for 100/200 level classes. 100 kids x $1,600 = $160,000 for calculus, english or american history 101 class? Prof teaches maybe 2 of these for a cost of salary and benefits of $40K per semester. Teaching Assts. do the grading and handle the break out classes. Looks like BS to me.

The housing is another boondoggle. They charge kids $2K per semester to live in a 15 x 15 dorm room with a roommate. That’s $8K per year for 225 feet of space and not including anything that they do in the summer sessions. A 3 bedroom apartment with 1,000 sq. feet off campus is $1,200 when you factor in utilities.


13 posted on 11/26/2008 7:25:54 AM PST by misterrob (Smooth talkers win at singles bars and in politics .. often with similar outcomes for the listener)
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To: misterrob
Your figures vary depending on the college.

I am "junior faculty." My 100-level classes are capped at twenty students. I get no benefits -- unless you count a faculty parking sticker. I even pay for my own photocopying. I make the princely sum of $2,100/course/semester. Basically, for a fall/spring combo, I make $12,600.00 -- perhaps more, if I pick up a couple of the summer sessions that the tenured profs will not deign to teach, or pick up a night course for the adult continuing ed department. No TA for me -- Hell, no OFFICE for me. More often than not, I am treated as the TA for the upper levels.

By comparison, my tenured department "betters" teach one or two upper-level courses a semester, make $65K a year (with full bennies), and have their travel to various bullsh*t conferences subsidized, so that they can deliver obscure papers on the minutia of their specialty.

16 posted on 11/26/2008 7:34:39 AM PST by Malacoda (CO(NH2)2 on OBAMA.)
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To: misterrob

Your housing comment struck home with me. My daughter is in grad school in Austin. The tuition is not the problem, it’s the cost of housing. Even with a roommate her housing expenses are almost $1,000 month when you factor in utilities, internet and groceries. I live in fear of her final year when she will do six week clinical rotations all over Texas and need temporary housing. Typically these students pay weekly rates at a Comfort Inn type place.


18 posted on 11/26/2008 7:39:00 AM PST by McLynnan
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