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To: AmericanVictory

Let me know when the infrastructure for this mysterious E II is in place and I will listen. I have nothing against viable alternatives. Where is the infrastructure for E II and who can make this mysterious formulation at a cost competitive price?? If it were so easy and cheap it would be in the market now. Small companies and venture capitalists are looking for just such a product.

ETOH does not cause undue engine wear—people in Iowa, Neb, and ILL have been burning it for 100s of millions of miles in all manner of vehicles since the 70s. I burned it in a Datsun truck in the early 80s—sold the truck with 112K miles to a guy that ran it for another 50K and sold it—this is not undue unusual engine wear. You are buying the vilification of the petroleum competitors and I am not. Every industry is subsidized down to the city level—where even small towns pay subsidies to attract industry with 50 employees or more. ADM does not own all the ETOH plants—many are farmer-owned co-ops.


131 posted on 12/01/2008 9:08:04 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: Neoliberalnot
If it were so easy and cheap it would be in the market now. Small companies and venture capitalists are looking for just such a product.

In the same manner, I assume, that against the power of Ma Bell in her heyday, the better and cheaper technology of touch tone dialing vaulted right into the market place. Twenty-seven (27) years it took, despite the fact that Ericaphon, not a small competitor, was pushing it in this country. We suggest you read the well-known book of Dr. Clayton Christensen of Harvard, "The Innovator's Dilemma" and some of his other works.

You can read up on this problem in articles I have done in the past such asThe Real Cost of Enron and Oil, War and Productivity and also The courage to innovate. Just to give you a little update, as we have posted on this forum, in the last six years or so for the first time since America rose to industrial prominence, more IPO's based on breakthrough technology have taken place overseas than here. In the past year there were none on these shores at all.

We can thank companies such as ADM, Cargill and Exxon and their powerful lobbies allied with the tendency of government to head us in the wrong direction when it insists on interfering with markets. See George Gilder's classic "Wealth and Poverty."

You can read the E II patent on the PTO website, like any other patent. Why anyone would care what you think or want to keep you posted on developments is not apparent. I will tell you this: it is increasingly likely that E II deployment will occur first overseas not here, largely because of things such as the ethanol boondoggle. There are many countries that are more interested in its benefits than in pleasing the lobbyists of ADM and Cargill and are quite desperate for the benefits of E II and other breakthrough oil technologies that are being blocked here. Undoubtedly once E II is deployed overseas it will then be deployed here and you can keep on driving on ethanol as long as it pleases you and the market for it lasts, which is not likely to be long after the introduction of E II.

Having wrestled for years with the likes of Exxon on these questions, I don't think that your concern and skepticism (that fatal disease) count for much in the scheme of things, with all due respect. Your belief in the free market is touching but there never is such a market for disruptive technology in markets that are dominated by a handful of very large players. That has certainly been the case in oil and energy for a long time. We recommend that you go see the recent movie about the man from Rockville who invented the vacuum windshield wiper and his treatment by Ford.

132 posted on 12/01/2008 10:12:38 AM PST by AmericanVictory
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