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Dems vs. Dems in new Congress
Politico ^

Posted on 11/25/2008 6:44:52 PM PST by Chet 99

Forget the Republican filibuster and the race to 60. The real fight in the next Congress is Democrats vs. themselves.

With nearly complete control of Washington for the first time in three decades, Democrats are entering a treacherous power zone in which many of their priorities could easily be undone by the geographic, demographic and ideological factions that compete for supremacy within the party.

Unless Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) can whip their caucuses into unity, numerous fault lines will be revealed: Southern Democrats vs. Northern liberals on labor law; California greens vs. Rust Belt Democrats on global warming; socialized medicine adherents vs. go-slow health care reformers; anti-war liberals vs. cautious centrists on national security. And don’t forget the anti-bailout crowd vs. the powerful Michigan Democrats in both chambers when it comes to money for Detroit.

Republicans insist they will fight for their issues when they can, but they also might simply take a front-row seat to see if Democrats implode.

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KEYWORDS: 111th; bho2008; dingell; reid
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1 posted on 11/25/2008 6:44:52 PM PST by Chet 99
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Republicans insist they will fight for their issues when they can, but they also might simply take a front-row seat to see if Democrats implode.

Sounds like a plan. Pass the popcorn.

2 posted on 11/25/2008 6:45:23 PM PST by Chet 99
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Right on. Let’s see what Dems are really for.


3 posted on 11/25/2008 6:47:31 PM PST by dr_who
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>Right on. Let’s see what Dems are really for.

Killing babies, human cloning, and homosexual marriage. [/sarc]


4 posted on 11/25/2008 6:54:35 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Why [/sarc]? You’re right!


5 posted on 11/25/2008 6:59:34 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Chet 99
I have been expecting this since 5 Nov.

Not to sound like Peggy Noonan-- because I think that Obama is an Affirmative Action Embarrassment and closet Marxist--but I think that the Obama Presidency might not be as bad as many Freepers fear. And this article lays out one possible reason why.

Furthermore, Fate has a way of confounding the conventional wisdom. Did anyone eight years ago forsee 9/11 and the liberation of Iraq and Afghanistan? Dubya was not looking for overseas wars-- but he got them. So I can only wonder what surprises will derail the Demo-commie agenda...

6 posted on 11/25/2008 7:03:22 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: Chet 99

It’s awesome when Liberals eat their own.


7 posted on 11/25/2008 7:08:07 PM PST by wastedyears ("Al Gore is an apostle of arrogance." - Vaclav Klaus, Pres. of Czech Republic)
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To: Chet 99

This is a very simplistic view.

The Dems have done a remarkable job keeping their party on the same page for the past 8 years. Even in the minority, they held sway over the political agenda, due to the spineless GOP and President Bush with his “new tone”.

The Dems paid no price for their perfidy and near treason on Iraq in 2006 or 2008, when they made gains with the electorate.

My fear is that their party discipline will far outweigh that of the feckless GOP. It is the GOP that will splinter, not the Dems.

That’s why we need a new Conservative Prty. We have no longer a home in the GOP.


8 posted on 11/25/2008 7:10:15 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: Chet 99

are we only going to see a lot of crap or a heck of a lot of crap?


9 posted on 11/25/2008 7:13:45 PM PST by ari-freedom (No more candidates from 2008!)
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To: exit82
We have no longer a home in the GOP.

Speak for yourself.

10 posted on 11/25/2008 7:16:11 PM PST by what's up
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To: exit82

it’s easy to be united when all you have to do is say “No more Bush!” for 8 years.


11 posted on 11/25/2008 7:16:18 PM PST by ari-freedom (No more candidates from 2008!)
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To: Lysandru
Furthermore, Fate has a way of confounding the conventional wisdom. Did anyone eight years ago forsee 9/11 and the liberation of Iraq and Afghanistan? Dubya was not looking for overseas wars-- but he got them. So I can only wonder what surprises will derail the Demo-commie agenda...

LBJ was planning to reshape the United States into a Europe style Socialist state, and the Dems had nearly 2/3rds control of Congress to back him up on it... then he got a little sidetracked in a place called Vietnam. Obama has been apparently aching for a fight with Pakistan...

12 posted on 11/25/2008 7:20:04 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: dr_who

>Why [/sarc]? You’re right!

Because if I didn’t say it with sarcastic bile I’d cry over my poor [deceived] country.


13 posted on 11/25/2008 7:20:09 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: what's up
Speak for yourself.

I always do, my friend.

But let's be honest. The GOP leaders in DC are already blaming McCain's defeat on not following the Obama model.

Do you not see where this is headed?

I guess hope springs eternal.

But we are already being marginalized in the party we put into power.

The GOP would rather listen to the whining of the squishy middle, then stand for anything anymore.

Watch and see if you see any sustained opposition to the Messiah.

14 posted on 11/25/2008 7:26:07 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: Chet 99

I hate to say it, but the same thing happens to whatever party is in power. When you include all the representatives that come from various parts of the country, it inevitably results in the party in power being pulled in different directions.

The Dems will fail, and then the Pubbies will take over, the Pubbies will fail, and then the Dems will take over.. as long as we have the country divided the way it is, this will be the pattern.


15 posted on 11/25/2008 7:29:51 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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YES! It never would have happened if McCain won, in that case Reps vs Reps would continue. Watch them try to get republicans on board.

The pre-election hysteria had Pelosi just commanding democrats vote, but dynamics change makes a big difference. No republican to veto and blame.


16 posted on 11/25/2008 7:30:48 PM PST by sickoflibs (McCain asks: "Did you stupid conservatives really believe me? HA-HA-HA")
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To: exit82
I always do, my friend.

No, when you use the pronoun "we" you are presuming to speak for others as well.

17 posted on 11/25/2008 7:33:49 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

We was used in the context of conservatives. I could have made that clearer.


18 posted on 11/25/2008 7:40:45 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: exit82
We was used in the context of conservatives.

I understood your meaning. And thus you were not speaking just for yourself as you attested.

19 posted on 11/25/2008 7:47:55 PM PST by what's up
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To: Chet 99

It’s the 60’s all over again.


20 posted on 11/25/2008 7:49:58 PM PST by DaGman
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