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What Does Palin Have to Do With Feminism: Lack of Feminist Support is Not Hyprcritical
UNLV Rebel Yell ^ | November 24, 2008 | Marissa Christenson

Posted on 11/25/2008 11:48:07 AM PST by lewisglad

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To: lewisglad

Conservatism, self-empowerment to succeed, freedom of individuals to work their way up, are the things Sarah represents, but feminists will never accept her because she doesn’t defend their right to murder babies. It’s not a complicated matter, or one that requires the deep, intellectual pondering of liberals and RINOs.


41 posted on 11/25/2008 12:27:41 PM PST by pallis
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To: anniegetyourgun

If Walter Williams wins the GOP and White House in 2012, we will again hear that our nation is “racist” and that this is not any good for America.

It isn’t about a demographic, it is about supporting liberalism. There is no tolerance for dissent. Issues of racism and sexism are a con largely pushed by the Party of political correctness.


42 posted on 11/25/2008 12:35:59 PM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: MrB
Free sex is just one of the avenues to destroy the traditional family, and by extension, our whole society.

You may have it right, I should create a tree-graph covering it, but I think destroying the family is not at the root of the tree, but destroying human morality. Moral standards in general are attacked by multiculturalism. Basic moral precepts are attacked through situational ethics and moral relativism. Moral judgment is attacked through "tolerance" ideals. Once morals are beaten down, then the push is towards animalistic and hedonistic behavior. Sex without strings, kill anyone who is inconvenient, lie about anything without repercussion, and encourage others to do the same.

So what was standing in their way? The schools, the courts, the government, the family, and the churches. The first three are pretty much done-for, and the remaining two are rapidly failing. If we want to take back the country, we must take back these. I'm not sure which would need to first, but I think the liberals have made the courts so powerful, that activist conservative judges are our best hope.

43 posted on 11/25/2008 12:37:31 PM PST by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: weegee

Yes, it’s all about ideology. And, if you have the “wrong” ideology, you will be painted as hateful. It’s working with the blind masses who don’t want to be viewed as “hateful” - hence they buy into the lie that it’s about sex, race, marital status, etc.


44 posted on 11/25/2008 12:38:59 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: dan1123
Sex without strings, kill anyone who is inconvenient, lie about anything without repercussion, and encourage others to do the same.

As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the Son of Man. Luke 17:26

Just as an exercise, go through commandments 10 back to 5 and you'll see how liberals break them all, and encourage others to do so as well.

45 posted on 11/25/2008 12:42:25 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: SFC Chromey
I meant “real feminist” in labeling ALL of those who insist that support for abortion is THE litmus test in determining if a woman “is” a real feminist.

The radical feminists are those who are socialist first, and “for women” second. International Women's Day (recognized even in America) is a Communist holiday. The feminists who use feminism to push Socialism are Feminazis. They are a wing of a larger political movement. They are united by Party, not an agenda of improvement for “sisterhood”. And they are the ones who will tear down any woman who disagrees with The Party.

The sexual harassment investigation of the Clinton White House was considered “political” so the attacks on women were accepted. It was needed for “The Party”. And feminists made the exception to their normal rhetoric against sexual harassment (even welcome advances) in the workplace, because he held the “right” view on abortion.

Abortion does not advance womens’ rights. It forces them to feel shame over getting pregnant (but not the extramarital sex or infanticide). Who is paying for these teens’ abortions that is NOT coming from their parents or parents’ insurance? Don't ask, don't tell. This does not help women. It helps them to be victimized.

46 posted on 11/25/2008 12:43:04 PM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: dan1123
activist conservative judges

square triangular objects
opaque clear lenses
giant miniature shrimp

47 posted on 11/25/2008 12:43:15 PM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: lewisglad

Can somebody tell me if this is decent enough to send to the lady that wrote this?

Your rantings are incredibly ignorant and miss the point of being a women and supporting other females and their causes. It’s unfortunate that many liberals feel that they can only support females that believe in the same ideals that they have. This goes against everything that female oppression was about. You may disagree with Governor Palin’s politics but frankly, any female should be proud that a woman was elected as a Mayor, a Governor and then selected to be the first Republican Vice Presidential candidate.

She believes in the 2nd amendment, pro-life causes, religion, energy independence, strong national security (not pro-war – which is the incessant and common misconception of most on the left), family, small government and being fiscally conservative. When has any of this meant that we could not appreciate a female for just being her? I am so tired of people trying to shove their opinions and ideals down other peoples’ throats. Is Mrs. Palin not allowed to have these opinions and views? Is she not allowed to be religious or conservative? Most Republicans (again many are unaware) believe in small government and believe that it is the state’s and local government’s decision to pass laws that directly affect its citizens/constituents. She does not believe in enforcing and encroaching upon the lives of others based on her views.

What I am finding out as I near the ripe bold age of 30 is that this is what democrats do – they want to infiltrate your lives and believe in a centralized government enforcing laws that may not be what at least half of the population wants or needs.

Because so many women are so short-sided and only vote on one or two issues such as being pro-choice they have now elected the most inexperienced candidate in the history of our nation. They have elected a candidate who has the most radical abortion stances (which the majority of Americans, even if you are pro-choice, do not agree with), a man who was a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, a man who did in fact maintain friendships and relationships with extremists. This man got free passes by the media (who became his PR machine). This candidate was the least vetted candidate in the history of this nation but women and others on the left still feel the need to lambast and complain about Governor Palin.

As we are about to find out, in the next four years, there is more to life and this country than being pro-choice or pro-life. Roe Vs. Wade, in all honesty, will not be overthrown or encroached upon, at least not by Republicans, but they are allowed to believe in what they feel is right, whether you agree or not. The pressing concerns are that the economy due to Carter’s creating of the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) and the expansionary investments in the subprime market during the Clinton years of the 90’s as well as the deregulation and repeal of the Glass/Steagall Act during that same time period are the reasons that we find ourselves in the predicament today. Republicans were the ones who actually attempted to regulate Fannie and Freddie when they had the chance and this never happened, because the Democrats in congress insisted that there was no problem and that they were sound and stable. Congress, truth be told, has more to do with the economy than an administration because they allocate and regulate the budget, or at least they are supposed to. There is too much corruption in the government and we just elected a man who was bred from the Chicago Political Machine which is known for being one of the most corrupt political machines in existence today. He has quite a history, such as throwing various people, including his mentor, under the bus, getting all his competition thrown off the ballots in his local race so he could run unopposed and win, and let’s not forget all the housing subsidies and shady dealings with Mr. Rezko.

For the first time in my life I am ashamed of my country and my countrymen. The media became propagandists with their unhinged rage against conservatives and of course Governor Palin.

So as much as you may dislike this woman’s politics, I am proud to say that as a female, and as an unaffiliated voter who prefers to do my research and homework outside of the Mainstream Media, I thoroughly enjoyed and supported Governor Palin. I too, am pro-choice, to an extent, but I certainly do not begrudge somebody who believes in something a little differently than I. I believe in character, moral fiber and integrity more than anything else. I read her record in Alaska and what she was able to accomplish and in only 2 years time as Governor, which is extraordinary to say the least. I found her connection with average Americans and her charisma to be refreshing and more than anything, I thought very highly of her because she was able to run on a campaign of reform and actually stick to her word. This is what needs to happen to make our country work efficiently and cohesively again. Her record proves that she is willing to work with individuals from all political parties and walks of life. This is what will get us to the greater good, this is what coming together and building your country up to be the best it can be is all about.

My question to you is what is feminism? By definition feminism is 1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes 2 : organized activity on behalf of women’s rights and interests; does this automatically assume that females who believe in causes like pro-life are pushed aside? There are many women who I feel believe in the right of the child and do not feel this goes against their ideals of letting women get ahead. This was an issue that only recently was taken on as a feminist cause, but not everyone feels that way. This definition was formed in 1895, before there was even a court case on the issue.

I, in fact, prefer the first definition because it speaks that ALL women, no matter what political leaning, since it does not specifically say left or right, from all walks of life are allowed to pursue equality in society. If women keep putting other women down they will never have the respect nor will they ever be allowed to truly be equals, because in essence they are the ones holding each other back instead of being welcoming to all opinions and people and allowing for a “big tent” of feminism.


48 posted on 11/25/2008 12:49:19 PM PST by Lilpug15 (I'm Moving to Alaska...You can Keep THE CHANGE!)
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To: lewisglad
To be worried about what "feminists" think and how Sarah Palin is affected by "feminism", is to recognize that any such thing or state exists other than in their own minds.

If "feminism" is supposedly the equality of men and women, the I'll buy into that; but if it is simply as it seems an excuse for abortion and liberalism, then I'll agree that Sarah Palin is NOT a "feminist" and is NOT into "feminism".

She is all about equality, and womens' rights, but "feminism" is to "Womens' Rights" as communism is to the Bill of Rights.

It's a hoot how they try to make her about GWB, saying she's George Bush in a woman's body. Anyone who sees that statement as anything other than "Sarah Bashing" via "Bush Bashing" has a IQ lower than your average feminist.

Another poster said women go for feminism so they can have no-consequences sex, "like a man". I sort of disagree, as just about every real-live feminist I've seen would play hell just getting a date, much less having sex with anyone. And even if you found a decent looking one, how long could you put up with that radical chatter...just shoot me and get it over with.

Sarah Palin is a woman in every sense of the word. Not just that she's drop-dead gorgeous, but she's smart, has morals, and courage beyond belief. She is everything the average feminist isn't.
49 posted on 11/25/2008 12:50:06 PM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: lewisglad

This is rich, coming from that unGodly lot. They are mad that young women are seeing right through the scam that is feminism.


50 posted on 11/25/2008 12:57:08 PM PST by pray4liberty (Always vote for life!)
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To: lewisglad

Another idiot commentator that I’d bet (admittedly I didn’t read the entire idiot screed) is only concerned about one issue, murdering unborn children!

Governor Palin acted very feminine, was confident in herself, has a wonderful family and made a big difference in her community. She should be an example for all women.


51 posted on 11/25/2008 1:16:23 PM PST by CSM (IÂ’m jubilant! Now that the Dems are completely in charge, we can FINALLY blame THEM for everything!)
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To: lewisglad

Fox just played the Thank you Sarah Palin ad... nice ad!!!


52 posted on 11/25/2008 1:17:21 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: lewisglad

SARAH HAS SOME BIG ....OVARIES.


53 posted on 11/25/2008 1:19:22 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to get Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; there might be show trials in Feb09)
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To: steve-b
square triangular objects...

I get your point, but "activist" in this case means aggressively "delegislating from the bench" instead of "legislating from the bench"--and moreso in overturning previous judgments that are truly legislating from the bench. Can you imagine a court that struck down whole departments of the federal government as unconstitutional? Wiped out vast portions of private-property-restricting regulation, and overturned 100 years of judicial overreach?

54 posted on 11/25/2008 1:27:23 PM PST by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: lewisglad
This is such utter and total nonsense that I don't even know where to begin. It's almost not worth it.

For instance, radical feminists tend to object to the idea that in order to be successful, a woman must act like a man.

They do? That's news to me. Why else would they be so contemptuous of motherhood if they didn't feel that women should be just like men?

As for Palin behaving or even acting "just like a man". What an utter joke. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Well, how about these pictures:

Yeah, she sure looks very masculine. She doesn't inspire any little girls to grow up to be strong wives, mothers, and leaders.

Perhaps what the nitwit who wrote this article means is that Sarah Palin has figured out a way to make the following aspects of herself work together:

Fisherwoman

Hunter

Wife

Mother

Commander

Inspirational Figure

Role Model

Public Servant

Leader

Yeah, I think the pictures say it all: Fisherwoman, Hunter, Wife, Mother, Commander, Inspirational Figure, Role Model, Public Servant, Leader.

55 posted on 11/25/2008 1:31:07 PM PST by GipperGal
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To: lewisglad

Feminism = pro abortion on demand until the baby comes home from the hospital.

Therefore, Palin was not a feminist.


56 posted on 11/25/2008 1:32:09 PM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: GipperGal

Great pics! Thanks for posting them.


57 posted on 11/25/2008 1:32:33 PM PST by CSM (IÂ’m jubilant! Now that the Dems are completely in charge, we can FINALLY blame THEM for everything!)
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To: dan1123
Can you imagine a court that struck down whole departments of the federal government as unconstitutional? Wiped out vast portions of private-property-restricting regulation, and overturned 100 years of judicial overreach?

Yes. I have a vivid imagination!

58 posted on 11/25/2008 1:36:00 PM PST by Tax-chick ("And the LORD alone will be exalted in that day." (Is. 2)
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To: lewisglad

Feminism is the manifest rebellion against God’s creation of Woman. Sarah Palin is a Christian, therefore the feminists hate her.


59 posted on 11/25/2008 2:47:43 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: weegee

I fully concur with your initial stance, and the follow up points!


60 posted on 11/25/2008 3:07:16 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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