Posted on 11/24/2008 6:48:48 PM PST by Drango
Ooooh no I am not an unsaved deluded Mormon who dares add to the Eternal Word of God and follows another “jesus” to hell.
Oooh no.
and see my last post AuntB
No we are NOT all Mormon. Please consider your words in light of the Gospel and the requirement to love the sinner who has no means to overcome sin without Christ.
P.S. Mormons don’t have the real Christ, so they don’t have the power of the Gospel to carry to the Lost.
I don’t care.
I don’t care if you get up every morning and dance naked in your rice crispies as you praise your chosen diety.
In this country, you can worship as YOU see fit.
SO can Mormons, and if they aren’t harming you or me, their doctrines are none of our business.
It’s about the Constitution....not just your bible.
Karger’s complaint merits NO inquiry.
Volunteer work has no intrinsic value, so no need to report it. This is total BS
A total lie!
The proposition was put on the ballot SOLELY by evangelicals. (cut the PAGAN BS, ok?)
And let’s not forget that Prop 8 became a hotbutton issue for Mormons when that polygamist brought a case to court this summer that his “marriages” would be considered true marriage because there were so many gay marriage laws.
Polygamy is just as much of a marriage as Adam and Steve’s, is what that Mormon Polygamist was trying to argue.
This was the match strike under the Mormons bankrolling of Prop 8, after Mitt lost the primaries because of a lack of evangelical support.
(And it was Mitt behind the Palin post election bashing, too, for the same reasons...)
If it were up to white Californians, gay marriage would be approved. The gay marriage ban would never have passed without the aid of blacks and hispanics. Perhaps, the gay gestapo should investigate black churches.
I agree with you 100%!!!
The Evangelical church was far too quiet!... and I am a member of one!
Polly
I have over 80 first cousins. Not a single Mormon in the bunch. :)
I'm proud to have Rabbi Shifren and our Jewish brethren stand tall. This needs to be a battle where all faiths join together.
The Mormons are taking a beating in the popular press. As you suggest, their battle is our battle! And if they are defeated, we all will lose. A united ecumenical front will be needed to win the next phase of the cultural war.
Congratulations. You have found a way (albeit a ridiculous one) to turn the Mormons’ efforts to protect marriage into something evil. How twisted and full of hate can you be?
You completely overlook the normative effect of the law, and human nature. Alexander Pope said about sin, “First we pity, then endure, then embrace.” The homosexuals’ goal is to propagandize the new generations to believe that the obviously dysfunctional homosexual urges are “normal.” Calling their relationships “marriages,” and putting them on the same legal level as normal marriages would help them do that.
There is nothing hypocritical about the Mormon Church’s stand on that. Homosexual behavior is an abomination and unambiguously condemned in the Bible, while Old Testament prophets practiced polygamy. Even aside from the moral issues, sex and sexual attraction have an obvious biological purpose. Homosexual behavior makes no biological sense. Polygamy does, although I’m glad we don’t still practice it.
That doesn’t mean that we preach “hate” against anyone. Homosexuals are sons and daughters of God, and efforts should certainly be made to reach them. But loving the sinner does not mean embracing the sin.
Tell me, do you go to a church where the pastor regularly rails against Mormons? Or are you the pastor.
That polygamist was not a Mormon. The Mormon church hasn’t sanctioned polygamy since the 19th century.
And the “Mitt was behind the Palin attacks” is a ridiculous lie.
My FRiend, there were many, many evangelicals in the fight. And I don't want to suggest otherwise. What I do want to say was that they weren't as public and visible as the Knights of Columbus and the Mormons. I'm not bashing evangelicals, I'm asking them to take it to the next level and PUBLICLY get the message out. See the video in post #2 as a small example.
The message got out.
What was bogging the drive down was the false statements that moonbeam inserted into the ballot language. The proposition didn’t deny anyone the right to marry; it just prohibits calling a union between persons of the same sex marriage. They still have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex, as always, but they don’t wish to do that. They deny themselves.
We were also out-spent by three to one. (Soros again)
Amen, FRiend!
And there is the heart of the matter. Outside of California how active did the evangelical/ fundamentalist movement assist in passing Prop 8? Did the Southern Baptist and Assembly of God get the word out? Did they ask for donations and financial support? Did Willow Creek? Did NewLife in Colorado Springs?
My guess is they all did something, but my prayer is that they all do a lot, lot more next time.
If somebody was selling poisoned bottled water in our neighborhoods, yes, it'd be our business. (You can't just say, "well, if you don't like bottled water, don't buy it...just use your tap water and stick to your own pipes." YOU are the one who makes an apriori assumption that there's no spiritual harm to anything they teach.)
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