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Adamkus predicts history will see Nazi and Soviet crimes as equal
The Baltic Times ^ | Nov 24, 2008

Posted on 11/24/2008 11:16:42 AM PST by nickcarraway

Nazi and Soviet crimes against humanity committed in 20th Century Europe will one day be equally condemned, Lithuanian President Valdas Adamkus said on Saturday speaking in an international forum marking 75 years since Ukraine's famine of Holodomor. "It is the last indispensable precondition for Europe's moral and spiritual unity on the road towards mutual openness and genuine solidarity among the nations", Adamkus said in a presidential press statement.

Adamkus said that history should not put the blame on specific nations, but rather on totalitarian regimes.

President Adamkus said that there will come a time when no one will "ever attempt to deny the cruelties of the Soviet regime unleashed in Ukraine and claim that 25 thousand people were starved to death per day by a mismanaged economy or poor harvest."

Admakus also asked people to remember the past crimes, lest they repeat themselves.

"We will never forget the genocide that killed tens of millions of people in Europe and worldwide: the brutal Soviet policy that doomed hard working Ukrainians to famine seventy five years ago, and Communist repressions against the peaceful inhabitants of the Baltic States, Hungary, Poland, Kazakhstan, Afghanistan, Russia, and many other countries", Adamkus said.

The Great Famine of Ukraine, the Holodomor, began in April of 1932 and lasted until Nov. 1933.

The parliaments of 14 countries have recognized the great Ukranian famine of Holodomor to have been a genocide. The European Parliament (EP) has also recognized Holodomor as a crime against humanity.

The Lithuanian Seimas recognized the Holodomor as a genocide back in 2005.

Ukraine's president declared year 2008 to be a year of remembrance for victims of the 1932-1933 Holodomor.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 100milliondead; communismkills; nazi; soviet; stalinism; stalinisttactics; worldwarii

1 posted on 11/24/2008 11:16:42 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Uhh, I always though they were.


2 posted on 11/24/2008 11:37:01 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
I never saw any difference between the two, and I haven't yet heard any explain what the differences in the two systems are. As an aside I read somewhere that back in the 30s the left in this country admired Hitler and Stalin equally. It wasn't until Hitler double crossed Stalin by attacking Russia after they signed the pact of 1939 that the left had a problem with fascism.
3 posted on 11/24/2008 11:46:39 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: YankeeReb
The difference is the Nazi emphasis on nationalism and the communist emphasis on a worldwide brotherhood.

Other than that they were very, very similar in their tyranny.

4 posted on 11/24/2008 11:49:13 AM PST by what's up
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To: YankeeReb

Exactly.

But Communists have succeded in revising the historical record and prominent Red Dupes are only too willing to carry their water for them.


5 posted on 11/24/2008 11:49:36 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: nickcarraway

Tell this to Hollywood. Compare the number of movies about Hitler to those of Stalin and Mao. Can’t think of a single movie with the message of the brutality to their own people shown by these two thugs.


6 posted on 11/24/2008 11:52:59 AM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: YankeeReb

Right you are.

That left wing commie Democrat Bella Abzug from New York City (she’s dead now - no regrets) opposed intervening against Hitler while he was carving up Poland with his good buddy Stalin.

As long as Stalin was getting on good with Hitler, the commies in the U.S. had their marching orders from Stalin and that was that.

As soon as Hitler double crossed their idol Uncle Joe, they became war hawks.


7 posted on 11/24/2008 12:00:21 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: tang-soo

No.

Hollyweird prefers to make movies about Hitler and the Nazis even though they are dead and buried for two reasons:

1) We fought Hitler

2) AND MOST IMPORTANTLY - Hitler double crossed “Uncle Joe”.


8 posted on 11/24/2008 12:02:29 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

>>Uhh, I always though they were.<<

Me too. I am under the impression that it is arguable that the USSR killed more jews than Nazi Germany. And when the Germans invaded the Ukraine, they were first welcomed as liberators.

At least the Nazi’s didn’t have to send two men into battle, one with an empty gun, and the other with bullets, until the one who survived the longest had the opportunity to combine the two into a functioning weapon.


9 posted on 11/24/2008 12:13:47 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: nickcarraway
According to Stalin Jr., er Putin, the Ukraine famine was not 'genocide' because it was not aimed at a particular ethnic group. Funny we don't hear much about Vlad's comments these days ...

At the time, coverage of the event was whitewashed by Soviet propagandists in the Western media ... most notoriously by the NY Slimes, which published the Pulitzer-Prize winning (!) work of one Walter Duranty, who denied that any famine was taking place and basically just repeated Stalinist propaganda.

The commie-loving Drive-By Media never changes its stripes ...

10 posted on 11/24/2008 12:17:50 PM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: RobRoy

I still think we should have let Hitler and Stalin beat each other’s brains out, then just cleaned up the garbage leftover and flushed it down the drain.


11 posted on 11/24/2008 12:32:33 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: nickcarraway

Never happen. For example, Franco will always be villified, and the Anarchists, Communists, etc... will always be looked upon wistfully.


12 posted on 11/24/2008 12:35:47 PM PST by MattinNJ (The time of mourning is over. Sanford/Palin in 2012 or Palin/Sanford)
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To: what's up
Years ago, I read a distinction between the two that has stuck with me through the years. Stalin killed more people than Hitler, but Hitler use of industrial genocide leaves a worse taste in your mouth. Of course to the victims the distinction is meaningless, but to those who think about the situation, the deliberate gassing of people - in violation of economic or military sense - is a demonic act of the highest order.
13 posted on 11/24/2008 1:13:05 PM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: ZULU

>>I still think we should have let Hitler and Stalin beat each other’s brains out, then just cleaned up the garbage leftover and flushed it down the drain.<<

I have held that position for a couple of decades myself. :)


14 posted on 11/25/2008 10:06:09 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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