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To: sig226
It sounds the same as the fundamentalist argument that only God can create beings who can question his existence, therefore the fact that we question his existence proves there is a God.

The fallacy in that argument is a completely different one. Either one defines "God" as encompassing anything that can create intelligence (in which case the statement is trivially true, and trivially useless), or not (in which case one concedes that intelligence can possibly arise from some other source, thereby undercutting the original assertion).

175 posted on 11/25/2008 5:49:13 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b

I used both of those arguments as examples of fallacies. The fact that we exist in a universe that can produce us does suggest that if there were multiple universes, they might not have had the conditions needed for elements and light and heat to produce life. That suggests that the entire universe has expanded and contracted, forming different substances and physical laws, more than once and likely several times. And each universe came into existance from what?

Perhaps probablity supports this argument, but the nature of it boggles the mind.


186 posted on 11/25/2008 10:02:25 AM PST by sig226 (1/21/12 . . . He's not my president . . . Impeach Obama . . .)
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