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To: classified
Also speaking of the 14th Amendment, which Obama claims makes him a citizen, note again that is says "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” Obama was born a SUBJECT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM, and therefore was not a citizen of the United States.

Nonsense. The "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" deals with the issue of the children of diplomats. They are, AFAIK, the only people born in the US but not subject to the jurisdiction thereof as they are not subject, by treaty, to American law.

Are you arguing that Obama is not subject to the jurisdiction of the US? So, he can commit murder and not be prosecuted for it?

Not just any citizen can be president. If that was true, the founders would have never put the natural born clause in the Constitution.

That's correct- naturalized citizens cannot be President. But any American who was a citizen at birth can.

124 posted on 11/24/2008 11:24:03 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Citizen Blade
"children of diplomats. They are, AFAIK, the only people born in the US but not subject to the jurisdiction thereof as they are not subject, by treaty, to American law."

Also children of indians (subject to tribal law, by treaty), children of hostile occupying forces, and children born on boats, planes, etc. transiting through US waters, airspace, etc. See the link a few comments up.

130 posted on 11/24/2008 2:44:55 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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