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To: Mad Dawg
Well, you were a bit condescending of Bush with your statement "Dubya said IHS was his favorite philosopher"

Before you repeat that allegation

It was a question, not an allegation. I don't generally repeat myself unless some one didn't understand it. In this case, it still doesn't need to be repeated.

You can answer it or not, it really doesn't matter to me.

...maybe you'd like to (a) reread what I wrote

OK, I did.

...b)consider the relationship between jumping to conclusions and Christian charity

Ahh, I think that is what you did. Ironic.

(c) consider whether the "have you stopped beating your wife" sort of quesiton is compatible with the Christian walk

I wouldn't ask you that, I know nothing of your domestic history.

...and (d) consider apologizing.

It seems there is some kind of misunderstanding here, care to clear it up?

Oh, and it might help to explain what IHS stands for.

Thanks

47 posted on 11/24/2008 10:44:19 AM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Syncro
Okay. Let's go carefully here. You said
Why don't you like IHS?

Your question contains and conveys the almost explicit premise that I don't "like IHS." Your question would make no sense if you thought I do "like IHS."
Are we clear on that?

If so, then it is an allegation that I do not "like IHS." Hence the complaint about an allegation.

Two things follow:
(1)You did indeed allege that I do not "like IHS."
(2)The question is of the form typified by the question, "Have you stopped beating your wife?" That is, it appears to be a question but actually conveys a charge, an allegation, which may or may not be true.

I am saying that there is nothing in what I wrote to suggest whether or not I "like IHS." What I did write was the I do not consider IHS a philosopher. He is much, much more. He is, among other more important things, the answer to the questions of the Philsophers and the Truth for which they seek, whether theyu know that they seek Him or not.

Also there is no condescension in my reporting the FACT that Dubya said the IHS was his favorite philosopher. I do not have condescension for Dubya. I disagree with him on some things (like whether IHS is a philosopher), but I admire his piety and fidelity.

So it seems there were two assumptions: (1)That I do not "like IHS," and (2) that I think I am somehow superior to Dubya so that I can condescend to him, (since the root sense of condescend is "go down to be with [someone].")

So I did not jump to conclusions. I look at what you wrote in your first message, to wit: Why don't you like IHS? and considered the meaning of the words you used.

So I have dealt with the questions of allegation, of my jumping to conclusions, and with the nonsense about domestic history. What else?

Okay, misunderstanding: A) Something led you to ask why I don't like IHS.
B) That suggests that you think that I don't like IHS, right? You asked a question which implied that thought, right?
So the misunderstanding is your implication (whether intended or not) that I do not like IHS.

IHS is a conventional and old abbreviation of the Greek Word ΙΗΣΟΥΣ. The Greek majuscule Sigma, conventionally written as Σ, is written at the end of words and in minuscule as ς. So there's a kind of graphic drift toward our sinuous "S" shape already in Greek, and as the old abbreviation gets Latinized the sigma becomes an S.

There, I've tried to track down the questions the best I could. Let me know my errors, please.

48 posted on 11/24/2008 12:05:52 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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