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To: cva66snipe

She may or may not have had bad treatment. She may not have been in septic shock when they saw her but could have been 5 hours later.

I am always surprised that kidney stone patients get sent home and told to drink fluid and wait for the stone to pass. And if you go in an ER with a kidney infection, unless you have very high fever, are dehydrated and look septic, you won’t be admitted.

It is damned hard to get put in a hospital..a pity.


46 posted on 11/21/2008 4:59:16 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

That was not my experience working in a hospital. Kidney stones got the radiological exam and the patient stayed until the stone passed, whether on its own or surgically.


49 posted on 11/21/2008 5:01:55 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit ((Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding))
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To: cajungirl
I am always surprised that kidney stone patients get sent home and told to drink fluid and wait for the stone to pass. And if you go in an ER with a kidney infection, unless you have very high fever, are dehydrated and look septic, you won’t be admitted.

Most doctors don't know about Dysreflexia I found out. It's more common to quads and paraplegics but can hit anyone if the bowels or urinary tract is blocked. You don't have much time to second guess either.

My wife is incomplete quad and is highly prone to bladder stone and UTI's so much so she's on permanent antibiotics and has been for many years. She was having some problems that we suspected was UTI so I called the on call urologist. He called in a prescription which was the norm for her. By the time I could drive 40 miles round trip to the drug store and got home she was in trouble. Breathing labored and BP was out of whack. I took her in to the ER and the doctor immediately paged her urologist and Primary Care doc. At first when I took her in I didn't think things were real that bad maybe a day or two on IV. When I saw the look on our primary docs face it was a concern I hadn't seen before and I knew it was real bad.

He came out and said she had pneumonia and CHF. We're gonna see what we can do. They had her on suction and several IV's real fast and started getting the fluid out of her lungs. About a week later she was fine. CHF is always serious but that type is the one few that can be cured. They attributed it to a stone she couldn't pass.

She had been Foley dependent for about 18 years and they finally did a double GI & Urostomy bypass to try and reduce the infections. The bad part was they couldn't get the bladder out. It was too hard to reach and vascular due to anatomy issues and risk outweighed the benefit. That's just one of the type things they usually discover only in surgery and she had two of the finest working on her. The by-passes were a major quality of life improvement though and I think had they not done it she would not be here now.

The part that bothers me in the article though if it's right is that woman had a stone history. That's nothing to mess around with or second guess.

62 posted on 11/21/2008 5:31:46 PM PST by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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