Donofrio might have a case with the socialist candidate (as if it matters) and may help to clarify the Obama situation so that another suit gets some real traction, but using the 14th Amendment argument isn't going to fly. And McCain's eligibility really isn't credibly contested. Born a citizen is the same as natural born. I hope Donofrio's case works and gets BO's birth certificate but I doubt it will. More likely SCOTUS will kick it back to the lower court and have them admonish the NJ SoS for not doing her job properly or some other relatively pointless gesture.
What needs to occur is somebody, say, a Presidential candidate, elector, the sitting President of the Senate (Cheney), or a Representative or Senator - somebody with a legal obligation and responsibility in the Electoral College voting process - needs to sue for BO's BC, and to make that happen, somebody, whom one of those electors, candidates, etc. represents, needs to sue them to start the legal process of forcing them to do that if they don't do it on their own. It seems that Keyes is on the right track. I would expect better results from his suit. At least, IMO, he is going after the right targets. I guess we'll see. If I am wrong and Donofrio gets BO's certificate produced, feel free to tell me you were right and I was wrong.
Not really. He seeks to establish a clear distinction for citizens who seek elective office, specifically to be elected president. The founders themselves recognized the peril of split allegiance, and sought to eliminate the possibility. The matter has never been tested in a court of law. We will see.
“What needs to occur is somebody, say, a Presidential candidate, elector, the sitting President of the Senate (Cheney), or a Representative or Senator - somebody with a legal obligation and responsibility in the Electoral College voting process - needs to sue for BO’s BC”
Is there any evidence any of these people have asked and been refused?
Keyes never even asked.
The ‘qualified’ people you mention understand the absurdity of accusing multiple state agencies, independent observers, and a presidential candidate of such a massive fraud.
The facts:
Obama asked the sos in HI for a copy of his birth certificate to have ‘independently’ analyzed and posted.
There isn’t a single piece of credible evidence suggesting the chain of events is fraudulent.
Add to that not a single qualified person has been refused when asked to see documentation and this is rendered worse that pointless.
It is destructive to have conservative activists pursuing nonsense instead of working to elect real conservatives.
If you are correct, than anyone born a citizen is a natural born citizen. This means that anyone born to American parent(s) old enough and having spent enough time in the States to confer citizenship to their offspring is a natural born citizen, no matter in which dusty corner of the globe they emerged from their mother’s womb.
This also means that it matters not at all how many other countries at the same time claim you as their citizen as well. The USA does not recognize said citizenships, nor does it attempt to interfere therewith. There are several ways a dual citizenship can result in getting one’s American citizenship revoked, but it takes a little work. Even then, the USA has discretion.
For example, one way to lose your citizenship COULD BE to join the armed forces of a different country. Yet there are many American citizens who went to fight for Israel, and they never lost their citizenship here. I think it’s on a case by case basis.
I think you are correct though. A child born to an American (meeting the qualifications above) anywhere is a natural born American. [Relating this back to Pres-elect Obama, he would not qualify if he were born elsewhere.]