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To: GourmetDan
Is there an 'eye' goal, a 'brain' goal, a 'human' goal, etc, etc etc that 'evolution' is reaching for?

Is evolution now teleological or are you misrepresenting the arguments again?

Neither.

The "goal" is survival. Only those who survive to reproduce pass on their genes. That tends to focus the "random chance" in very specific directions.

Trial and error, with feedback, as I said.

20 posted on 11/21/2008 11:07:12 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
" Neither. The "goal" is survival. Only those who survive to reproduce pass on their genes. That tends to focus the "random chance" in very specific directions."

Then your 'example' was a misrepresentation and you continue that misrepresentation here. In your analogy 'survival' is any roll and there is no need to 'select' 1 six, much less 12 of them. You also assume perfect selection (both positive and negative), which is not possible artificially much less 'naturally'.

"Trial and error, with feedback, as I said."

'Survival' is any roll along the way or your analogy doesn't work. But since you already have 'survival' with any roll, there is no need to go in the direction of 12 sixes. 'Feedback' has no meaning without a teleological goal and appealing to 'survival' is not a goal the will produce 12 sixes.

This is just more misrepresentation for the weak-minded. Getting 12 sixes is the real world is as far from 'pretty easy' as you can get.

23 posted on 11/21/2008 11:43:38 AM PST by GourmetDan
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