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To: Free America52
The hole in your argument, is relying on "dual citizenship." There's no definition of it in the Constitution and thus "dual citizenship" does not impact "natural born citizen" in any way.

In other words, the definition of "natural born citizen" does not automatically preclude dual citizenship. Obama is a "natural born citizen" of the United States, as well as a "naturalized citizen" of Britain. On those grounds, he is eligible.

I think that's how the USSC will rule.
135 posted on 11/21/2008 8:14:38 AM PST by atomicweeder
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To: atomicweeder

The FOUNDERS of this nation, who wrote it’s constitution and led the revolution, were also dual citizens. They acknowledged that they were inelegible to run for president because of that BRITISH citizenship, and lack of natural born status. So they created the clause 5 of Article II, sec I that grandfathered them in. But note the portion that says, it applies to CITIZENS (formerly British and not natural born) “at the time of the adoption of this constitution”. That means that no one alive can claim this exemption.

From the moment of his birth, Hussein had an actionable claim of citizenship against the British government passed onto him thru his father as a kenyan citizen. Consider this from Obama’s own website:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

He has admitted to the dual citizenship status that the founders had.

The Framers wanted to make themselves eligible to be President, but they didn’t want future generations to be Governed by a Commander In Chief who had split loyalty to another Country. The Framers were comfortable making an exception for themselves. They did, after all, create the Constitution. But they were not comfortable with the possibility of future generations of Presidents being born under the jurisdiction of Foreign Powers, especially Great Britain and its monarchy, who the Framers and Colonists fought so hard in the American Revolution to be free of.

Due to the circumstances of his birh, Hussein is FOREVER ineligible without a constitutional amendment.

The fact that he never acted upon his Brit citizenship and let it expire is irrelevant.


148 posted on 11/21/2008 8:55:53 AM PST by DMZFrank
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To: atomicweeder
In other words, the definition of "natural born citizen" does not automatically preclude dual citizenship. Obama is a "natural born citizen" of the United States, as well as a "naturalized citizen" of Britain. On those grounds, he is eligible.

The question then is why he didn't just produce the BC in the beginning.
149 posted on 11/21/2008 9:01:05 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: atomicweeder; VigilantAmerican

Ok, help me out here.

Our youngest daughter was born in Canada. We lived on the border, and chose a Catholic hospital about an hour from our home, because they were the only one in our area that would allow father in the delivery room. (This was back in 1971)

So, she had dual citizenship, and didn’t declare for the US until she needed to, sometime around her 21st birthday. Is she eligible to be President?

She is one smart, organized and talented cookie, and very conservative, so I know she would be a good one!


182 posted on 11/21/2008 1:16:52 PM PST by jacquej
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