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To: BonRad
Bonrad,

Yes, what you're speaking of is THIS:
Foreign Affairs Manual, Vol. 7 -- ACQUISITION AND RETENTION OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND NATIONALITY

Here on page 6, near the bottom, 1116.1-4 "Not Included in the Meaning of 'In the United States' "

c. Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

KEEP IN MIND, the The Foreign Affairs Manual is published by the US Department of State. It contains the functional statements, organizational responsibilities, and authorities of each of the major components of the U.S. Department of State. As such, it is the BIBLE when it comes to who gets to come to the US, who doesn't, who's an alien, who's naturalized, etc.

The Panama Canal Zone was administered by the U.S. under a perpetual lease. It was not U.S. soil.

One may argue that the 1st Congress, in which a number of Framers sat, provided in the Naturalization Act of 1790 in which "the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, . . . shall be considered as natural born citizens. . . ." This strongly suggests that the framers of the Constitution understood this phrase to refer to citizenship acquired at birth (whether or not that birth had taken place on U.S. soil).

However, the phrase "natural born Citizen" isn't defined anywhere in the Constitution and its interpretation has never been squarely the subject of a U.S. Supreme Court ruling.

Look, I'm a vet, and I have the UTMOST admiration for McCain. I cried on his video biography during the official RNC nomination on TV -- 7 years of his life in a POW camp. WOW -- talk about sacrifice!

But as I understand it, for different reasons than Obama, McCain may NOT be qualified to hold the office of President.

I think it will be up to the Supreme Court to decide this winter. As to whether the Electoral College vote is put on hold, and we eventually end up with Keyes/Biden as the winners, well, it's anyone's guess...

430 posted on 11/21/2008 7:53:35 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
Thank you- I'm sure Donofrio said on the plainsradio show of Monday the 17th that Naturalization Act of 1790 had a furtherance in 1795 wherein the words “natural born” was not used in a similar or exact re-phrasing of the same / near same sentence!!!

PEOPLE HAVE TO HEAR WHAT DONOFRIO IS GOING THROUGH!!! LISTEN TO THE http://www.lanlamphere.com/ AUDIOCAST OF -I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE BUT ITS LISTED AS WEDNESDAY NOV 19- WHAT HIS MAN HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO BEYOND DANNY BICKLE OF THE USSC CLERK'S OFFICE. HIS PROBLEMS WITH THE NJ STATE APPELATE FILING SUBMISSION & RECORD ARE INCREDIBLE- IN ORDER TO ASSURE PASSAGE OF PROPER CASE APPEAL TITLE AND MATTER TO USSC!! HE WAS SOMEWHAT SAVED BY FEMALE NJSC JUDGE NOTATIONS, SUCH CASE WAS PASSABLE TO USSC.

EVEN AS THE BROADCAST IS MADE, THERE WAS A CYBERATTACK ON THE INTERNET RADIO STATION ITSELF SUCH SERVER CAPACITY WAS DROPPED FROM 30,000 TO 9,000.

I still can't get to Donofrio site www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/ , nor ANY blogtext.org site. THIS IS A VERY LONG AND INFORMATIVE INTERVIEW - DO DO DO LISTEN! THE PLAINSRADIO INTERVIEWS ESP MONDAY 17TH ARE MORE INFORMATIVE ON THE REAL FACTS OF THE CASE...BUT LL INTERVIEW SUBJECTS ARE VERY GOOD FOR BACKGROUND / PROCESS AND WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE DOING TO THIS GUY. LL says a fellow has backed-up the site and will make available for new server / address to be set up (I presume now) by LL. Another fellow communicates that "he knows for a fact" that the FBI is protecting him. LD states he has had weird things happen with his cellphones and lost a CPU with a virus.

437 posted on 11/21/2008 9:52:41 PM PST by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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