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To: Non-Sequitur
"but have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States"

Barack Obama Sr never did. He was a temporary visitor. His life-long allegiance was to Kenya, he was here on behalf of Kenya in order to be trained to be a future leader in Kenya, and he went back to Kenya a few years later, where he had a career in government.

"in the United States ... are there carrying on business"

That is, the Chinese parents had a personal stake in the economic liberty and laws within the US. Which Barack's dad never did - his politics were communist, allied with the USSR. Which, at the time, was our enemy in all practical effect.

"are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the emperor of China"

Well, now, Obama Sr. was here in what was very close to an official capacity, albeit it was unofficial. His visit as a student was in those attempts to strengthen ties between countries. He was here to be trained in the arts and sciences that he would bring back to Kenya as it became an independent nation.

So, thanks!

That pretty much reads out Obama. Under that precedent Obama would NOT be a natural born citizen. Good work, NS!

386 posted on 11/21/2008 12:04:28 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
Barack Obama Sr never did. He was a temporary visitor. His life-long allegiance was to Kenya, he was here on behalf of Kenya in order to be trained to be a future leader in Kenya, and he went back to Kenya a few years later, where he had a career in government.

The legal definition of domicile is where a person has his or her fixed dwelling without present intent of removal. At the time, Obama and his wife were living in Honolulu. They had no set for which they were intending to leave Hawaii. It could have been 10 months or 10 years. Legally their primary residence was there permanent, and only, domicile.

That is, the Chinese parents had a personal stake in the economic liberty and laws within the US. Which Barack's dad never did - his politics were communist, allied with the USSR. Which, at the time, was our enemy in all practical effect.

But not legal effect. Obama was a student. He was engaged in what was then his business.

Well, now, Obama Sr. was here in what was very close to an official capacity, albeit it was unofficial. His visit as a student was in those attempts to strengthen ties between countries. He was here to be trained in the arts and sciences that he would bring back to Kenya as it became an independent nation.

Ah, an unofficial, official capacity. Makes perfect sense. What Obama senior was doing in no way met the definition of a diplomat as the Supreme Court defined it.

390 posted on 11/21/2008 12:27:55 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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