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US contractors lose immunity in Iraq security deal
AP via SFGate ^
| 11/20/8
| MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writer
Posted on 11/20/2008 4:09:13 PM PST by SmithL
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posted on
11/20/2008 4:09:14 PM PST
by
SmithL
To: SmithL
...It was not immediately clear if any contractors would choose to stop working in Iraq because of the changes. Why should they leave, with the prospects of Sharia law judging what they do, who could ask for more.
2
posted on
11/20/2008 4:14:48 PM PST
by
Tarpon
(America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
To: SmithL
Time to pack up and get out of there then.
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posted on
11/20/2008 4:15:10 PM PST
by
TheZMan
(Admin Moderator, "No. We dumped it because it was stupid.")
To: Allegra
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posted on
11/20/2008 4:17:50 PM PST
by
null and void
(0bama is Gorbachev treating a dying system with the same poison that's killing it in the first place)
To: TheZMan
Dang, and with the economy tanking 80k tax free sounds pretty good. Looks like I'm gonna have go back to pimpin!
To: redstateconfidential
I’d need a bit more than that to be in an (ex)warzone, but point taken. Keep your head down if some hijabs come walking by, however.
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posted on
11/20/2008 4:26:18 PM PST
by
TheZMan
(Admin Moderator, "No. We dumped it because it was stupid.")
To: SmithL
I don’t understand the concern for this. Foreign workers in our country are subject to our laws. This is pretty much standard everywhere in the world.
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posted on
11/20/2008 4:34:18 PM PST
by
stuartcr
(If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
To: stuartcr
Except that they’re in a war zone and acting on behalf of the US Government.
This is not good. I’d be out of there in a hurry. BTW, all supply lines are run by contractors. See the problem?
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posted on
11/20/2008 4:37:56 PM PST
by
ataDude
To: ataDude
If Blackwater and the rest stay under those rules..I can only say, knowing some of the people, that the State Dept. people will be at greater risk. The Guards will duck before they fire and the Dump Diplomats will catch it.
Why go to jail defending someone who doesn’t like you anyway?
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posted on
11/20/2008 4:41:01 PM PST
by
Oldexpat
(Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
To: ataDude
They still have to obey the law. They could always go back to using our military for logistics, it would probably be cheaper.
10
posted on
11/20/2008 4:41:36 PM PST
by
stuartcr
(If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
To: stuartcr
Please explain to me how it is cheaper?
To: Oldexpat
You are exactly right. With this kind of ruling, diplomats will be sitting ducks.
To: SmithL
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posted on
11/20/2008 4:47:17 PM PST
by
A CA Guy
( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: panthermom
Housing costs, per diem, hazardous pay differentials, transportation in/out of country, salaries, profit margins for the contracting company. If it’s a cost-plus contract, they can just keep adding costs. Just as an example, say the contractor is getting $50/hr, his company could easily be charging the govt $250/hr.
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posted on
11/20/2008 4:54:02 PM PST
by
stuartcr
(If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
To: stuartcr; Allegra
They could always go back to using our military for logistics, it would probably be cheaper. Actually it isn't. That's why these private contractors are doing that sort of work in the first place. It's not so much the personnel costs as it is the logistical costs that are prohibitive.
What are you hearing Allegra?
L
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posted on
11/20/2008 5:04:03 PM PST
by
Lurker
("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
To: stuartcr
If it was cheaper to use the military, there wouldn’t be any private construction going on at all. The Marine and SeaBees would be building everything.
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posted on
11/20/2008 5:23:31 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
(("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
To: SmithL
At this rate, Obama’s not going to have any work to do when he gets there. All the backstabbing will already be done.
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posted on
11/20/2008 5:27:29 PM PST
by
BykrBayb
(May God have mercy on our souls. ~)
To: stuartcr
Yepper... you don’t get it.
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posted on
11/20/2008 5:43:04 PM PST
by
ataDude
To: SmithL
Well... It wasn’t going to last forever. Either Iraq is a sovereign power or it isn’t. I take this as yet another sign that the war is functionally over and we won.
Blackwater knows how to operate worldwide within the laws of lots of countries. They’ll figure it out.
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posted on
11/20/2008 5:46:10 PM PST
by
Ramius
(Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
To: Ramius
I had the same impression.
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posted on
11/20/2008 5:56:21 PM PST
by
SmithL
(Drill Dammit!)
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