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To: goldstategop

If the Prop 8 opponents lose this round, will it then go to the 9th Circus Court - er, Circuit Court?


8 posted on 11/19/2008 3:05:59 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama: Satan's Counterfeit Christ)
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To: COBOL2Java

I’m not a lawyer, but this is a state issue. The 9th Circus is a federal court, so no, I don’t believe so.


11 posted on 11/19/2008 3:13:16 PM PST by Dan Nunn
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To: COBOL2Java
If its upheld, then same sex marriage is banned in California. The opponents would have to go to the voters to try to get it overturned.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

16 posted on 11/19/2008 3:31:51 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: COBOL2Java

A federal court would not have any jurisdiction over a CA Supreme Court decision. The issue involved is a matter of the CA constitution, over which the CA Supreme Court is the final arbiter.


33 posted on 11/19/2008 4:51:57 PM PST by Lou Budvis (0bama, Spread your own ------n wealth)
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To: COBOL2Java
If the Prop 8 opponents lose this round, will it then go to the 9th Circus Court - er, Circuit Court?

The Prop 8 opponents might try to go through the Federal courts (they'd have to go through a lower level court first, before being able to appeal to the 9th), but they'd face an impossible task.

The California Supreme Court has the final say on how to interpret California's laws. It becomes a Federal matter only if there are issues that are in conflict with Federal law or the US Constitution. For example, if there were a provision based on race discrimination that was upheld by the CA Supreme Court, that would raise Federal issues under the 14th Amendment. If the provision in question were based on gender, it would be trickier, since we don't have a Federal ERA, but there are Federal laws that make gender a protected class. There is no decision that makes homosexuality a protected class, just Lawrence v. Texas, which merely prohibits a state from sanctioning private behavior.

Expect the Prop 8 opponents to try based on that case, but expect that even the 9th will have nothing to hang a decision to void Prop 8 with. And if they do, even Tony Kennedy will slap them down for it.

42 posted on 11/20/2008 5:28:46 AM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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To: COBOL2Java
If the Prop 8 opponents lose this round, will it then go to the 9th Circus Court - er, Circuit Court? Gay "marriage" proponents are trying to avoid going the federal rout. They fear that the USSC would rule against them and set a precedent that would set them back decades
47 posted on 11/20/2008 8:20:29 AM PST by Positive_Phototaxis
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