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Kennedy Announces Plan to Submit Bill For Universal Care
The Washington Post ^ | 2008-11-18 | Shailagh Murray

Posted on 11/18/2008 12:39:44 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: Carley

If they come in with a price cheaper or comparable with current insurance with portability, it will pass and much of the populace and business world will be on board with it.


21 posted on 11/18/2008 12:57:48 PM PST by DonaldC
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To: rabscuttle385

And so it begins, the quick slide into socialism.


22 posted on 11/18/2008 12:59:41 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: rabscuttle385

The man never had a good idea when his small brain actually worked. Now, we expect more?


23 posted on 11/18/2008 1:00:01 PM PST by Da Coyote (-)
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To: Condor51
Given the choice between a Brain Tumor and a Kennedy, I'd have to go with Brain Tumor. A Brain Tumor “MAY” make you do crazy things. Being a Kennedy “guarantees” it.
24 posted on 11/18/2008 1:00:53 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ArrogantBustard

“How much “health care” did Mary Jo get”?

...an excellent and really the ONLY point! A man that should be behind bars is writing a health care bill for 300 million people. We all must stand before God and answer to Him for our lives. It gives me some satisfaction to know that day is soon for Ted.


25 posted on 11/18/2008 1:01:07 PM PST by albie
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To: rabscuttle385
Doctor's are already limiting Medicare appts.

This will kill us off for sure.

sw

26 posted on 11/18/2008 1:02:09 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: goldstategop
But, what is interesting is that in many countries which have nationalized health care, the citizens there also have private insurance as well. 1. To speed up care - they will use their private. 2. To supplement care when private will not cover certain treatment.

Nationalized health care is becoming a mess in Europe and is not what it once was. I read, In England, because people used to have to wait a week or two for simple appointment, the government cracked down and said all appointments must be made within 24-48 hours. Because that was not possible, the doctors offices stopped taking appointments. Now the people wait all day to see the doctor.

With new technology and services since the 1970’s, care is more expensive and I do not think that a tax payers fund will cover the expenses involved. That is why many people still carry private insurance.

I’ve read stories about the problems throughout Europe, I am unfamiliar with Canada though.

27 posted on 11/18/2008 1:03:14 PM PST by HollyB
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.


28 posted on 11/18/2008 1:08:48 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: rabscuttle385; All
Given that the federal Constitution says nothing about public health care, the federal government has no power to regulate health care and lay appropriate taxes While I hope Senator Kennedy a victory over his health condition, given that Senator Kennedy swore to defend the Constitution, he should know better than to make a bill based on nonexistent federal government powers.

More specifically, Senator Kennedy's proposed bill is in contempt of the following constitutional statutes.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 18: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution (emphasis added) in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

In fact, Thomas Jefferson, while reflecting on the Founder's division of federal and state government powers as evidenced by the 10th A., noted that the Founders had trusted the states, not the federal government, with the care of the people.
"Our citizens have wisely formed themselves into one nation as to others and several States as among themselves. To the united nation belong our external and mutual relations; to each State, severally, the care of our persons (emphasis added), our property, our reputation and religious freedom." --Thomas Jefferson: To Rhode Island Assembly, 1801. ME 10:262 http://tinyurl.com/onx4j
Because Congress wrongly makes bills based on nonexistent federal government powers all the time now, I'm glad that constitutionally clueless Obama will be president for the following reason. The people will be forced to reconnect with the Constitution and its history so that the people will be able to protect themselves from Socialist Obama's misguided pen.
29 posted on 11/18/2008 1:09:06 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Jeff Chandler

It will work as well as the other great bill he authored...No Child Left Behind. I have 2 teachers in my Sunday School class and they complain they spend more time filling out paper work for the NCLB than they do actually teaching now.


30 posted on 11/18/2008 1:09:21 PM PST by GailA ( Valor Quilts for our wounded Troops....I'm a quilt-aholic!!!)
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To: HollyB

Go here:

http://www.biggovhealth.org


31 posted on 11/18/2008 1:12:10 PM PST by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
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To: lilylangtree
And so it begins, the quick slide into socialism.

We already have socialism. This is just the final nail in the coffin.

32 posted on 11/18/2008 2:28:26 PM PST by pray4liberty (Always vote for life!)
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To: utahagen

oing


33 posted on 11/18/2008 3:17:35 PM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: rabscuttle385

FREE MONEY AND HEALTHCARE FOR EVERYBODY!


34 posted on 11/18/2008 3:18:29 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Obama, you are NOT my President!)
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To: 2banana

We should get an ad out, show a woman who is terrified because she feels a lump and her mother and sister both had breast cancer. But the ultrasound didn’t show anything and so she doesn’t meet the criteria for a mammogram. She can be talking to someone about her fears and then face the reality. There’s nothing she can do, there’s no where she can go.

I say this because a woman was sitting next to my daughter when she went for her mammogram who had flown in from England. This exact scenario but one huge difference. She was able to fly to the U.S. and get a mammogram.


35 posted on 11/18/2008 4:00:02 PM PST by Kenny
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To: weegee
Otherwise why should we suffer for Ted’s mistake? There is already one family that is doing that.

Every family in American suffers for Ted's mistake: Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 

36 posted on 11/18/2008 4:34:07 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (LIBERALS: We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.)
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To: truthingod
The question becomes: will there be anyone working to pay the taxes they will demand to pay for healthcare?

If I had loads of money, I would take it elsewhere.

37 posted on 11/18/2008 4:37:09 PM PST by ncpatriot
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To: 84rules

Thanks for the link.


38 posted on 11/19/2008 6:15:16 AM PST by HollyB
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To: Glacier Honey
What does “oing” mean?
39 posted on 11/19/2008 6:55:00 AM PST by utahagen
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