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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excuse me but...
There seems to me to be a practical limit on how much and what type of ammo one can stock.
If you hunt, about a dozen cartridges per season harvests enough meat for a family of 4 for a year.
If you invision fighting off hordes of angry commies, you may be able to get off a couple hundred rounds protecting family and friends.
So what’s the point in reloading et cetera?
Just buy what suits you now and be done with it.
Where am I wrong on this?


12 posted on 11/18/2008 1:39:09 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: bossmechanic
Simple answer: our "government" wants to make ammunition all but unavailable as a method to control and then ban firearms.

Those of us who are stockpiling ammunition and reloading equipment are doing what we have to to ensure that we can keep functional firearms well into the future.

You must not remember the glorious Carter and Clinton years - the Obama era will be much worse.

14 posted on 11/18/2008 2:16:37 AM PST by Chinstrap61a
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To: bossmechanic

Competetion, practice, and fun. I go through 20-25 thousand rounds a year for these purposes.


15 posted on 11/18/2008 2:24:44 AM PST by RetiredNavy ("Only accurate firearms are interesting")
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To: bossmechanic
I can fine tune my reloads so that they are far more accurate then factory ammunition.

Oh, did I mention it's cheaper?

19 posted on 11/18/2008 3:44:01 AM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: bossmechanic
Why collect stamps, or dvds, or jewelry? Some people just like to do it. Same with guns. Same with ammo, for that matter. Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it a crime.

If I want to watch a new movie, should I have to go to the store to get it? What if I want to watch it late at night?

If I want to go shooting, why should I have to go buy ammo then? Why shouldn't I be able to have whatever I consider a reasonable store at home? Even if my version of “reasonable” is a million rounds?

You do understand that we have a Second Amendment right to bear arms for self-defense, not for hunting, or target shooting, right? If not, you better go read the Constitution again, and read Justice Story's book about it. Try reading Thomas Jefferson, as well.

For that matter, read all the founding fathers. Several of them thought we did not need an enumerated Bill of Rights, as no one could possibly mistake their reasoning. Others, Jefferson among them, thought those guys were wrong, and said so. LOUDLY! Guess who was right? Even at that, we have been being infringed since I was old enough to notice, and then some.

21 posted on 11/18/2008 4:20:40 AM PST by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: bossmechanic
Where am I wrong on this?

You forgot about the target shooters, who through more ammo in a day than a typical "hunter" would go through in several years (I've personally gone through about 600 rounds of rifle ammo in the last week, and it isn't unusual to shoot 1000 rounds of handgun ammo in a single day with friends).

Reloaders can also build up custom loads (careful selection of bullets, powder, powder charge, etc) to maximize the performance of their specific firearm, achieving levels of accuracy for their shooting conditions that can't be achieved from "off-the-shelf" factory loads.

24 posted on 11/18/2008 1:07:10 PM PST by Technogeeb (The only good Russian is a dead Russian. Rest in Peace, Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: bossmechanic; Carbonsteel
"So what’s the point in reloading et cetera?

Just buy what suits you now and be done with it.

Where am I wrong on this?"

Carbonsteel said: I can fine tune my reloads so that they are far more accurate then factory ammunition.

Oh, did I mention it's cheaper?

Same for me.

Look, the problem is the government telling me and millions of others what we can and cannot buy with the few hard-earned dollars that they let us keep. When you are talking about outlawing something that has never been outlawed, or vastly increasing its cost via punitive taxes - so that it is effectively outlawed, then you're entering the area of tyranny.

I shoot anywhere from 1,000-5,000 rounds of various calibers of ammo per year, depending on how much time and money I've got. This is for fun and for practice (so that I can responsibly carry a loaded handgun for self-defense). There's simply no way for me to go and buy 40,000-200,000 rounds of ammo now, let alone enough to have for teaching my kids, letting them have some fun, actually defending myself or my family, taking new shooters or guests shooting, etc., etc. if ammo is either banned or effectively banned.

Make no mistake - Mr. Obama aims to eliminate the gun culture in this country. It can't be done overnight, but if you effectively eliminate ammunition from the store shelves then all that we mere citizens have left is some very expensive clubs.

26 posted on 11/18/2008 1:47:54 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: bossmechanic
There seems to me to be a practical limit on how much and what type of ammo one can stock.
If you hunt, about a dozen cartridges per season harvests enough meat for a family of 4 for a year.
If you invision fighting off hordes of angry commies, you may be able to get off a couple hundred rounds protecting family and friends.
So what’s the point in reloading et cetera?
Just buy what suits you now and be done with it.
Where am I wrong on this?

It's called practice & training.

43 posted on 11/19/2008 12:57:50 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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