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Pres. Candidate Alan Keyes, AIP leaders [Markham Robinson] Sue Obtain Obama Citizenship Proof
Post Chronicle ^ | Nov 17, 2008

Posted on 11/17/2008 12:45:33 PM PST by Red Steel

Presidential candidate

Alan Keyes, vice-presidential candidate Wiley S. Drake, and the Chairman of the American Independent Party, Markham Robinson, have filed suit in California Superior Court in Sacramento seeking to bar Secretary of State Debra Bowen from certifying to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger the names of Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a "natural born" citizen of the United States, and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.

In addition, they have asked that the court issue a peremptory writ barring Senator Obama's California Electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until such documentary proof is produced and verified.

In response to questions about why the suit was being filed, Ambassador Keyes commented, "I and others are concerned that this issue be properly investigated and decided before Senator Obama takes office. Otherwise there will be a serious doubt as to the legitimacy of his tenure. This doubt would also affect the respect people have for the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. I hope the issue can be quickly clarified so that the new President can take office under no shadow of doubt. This will be good for him and for the nation."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; bc; birthcertificate; birthcertificategate; certifigate; keyes; lawsuit; obama; obamafamily; obamatruthfile; whenobamaspeakstruth; whenwillthisdie
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To: livius

Quote: “There is obviously something behind this birth certificate story. I didn’t think so initially, but now that it is clear that Obama and the Dems are circling the wagons, there’s no doubt that they’re hiding something.”

Definitely the same thing happened to me. I’ve found even those that voted for him state “WHAT” why wasn’t this reported. Why am I just finding out about this now? That is because the MSM will not taint the democratic party. Instead they would talk about how well he spoke and we really need change. Yet, they bashed the heck out of Sarah. Where was the bashing for Obama - I never saw it. They catered to him and I do not like that at all. Just give us the facts and ask the hard questions to everyone!

I’m an independent voter so I could have been persuaded either way. The media not reporting and my having to do all the research made me angrier than ever over this issue. I guess I can’t stop until it has been proven one way or the other.

Ahh.... Sorry, I needed to vent! :)


121 posted on 11/17/2008 4:03:45 PM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: Gemsbok

The lawsuit makes note of evidence brought forth by Berg that Obama’s paternal grandmother claimed to have been present at his birth in Kenya.

It also notes a discrepency in the hospital of his birth. His half sister claims one, while his book claims another.

There were no other witnesses noted in the lawsuit that I saw.


122 posted on 11/17/2008 4:04:12 PM PST by kidd
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To: panaxanax

Exactly. And the press is also not allowed to interview his family or friends.


123 posted on 11/17/2008 4:04:24 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Gemsbok

“Ann Obama”

You mean Anna Dunham, of course, since Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham never married.

My source: Michelle Obama.


124 posted on 11/17/2008 4:05:10 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: marshmallow

When the left wing media created the brouhaha over McCain’s panamanian birth, Mccain released his original BC to the press. That’s how you handle such things.

Obama may or may not be hiding some damaging info. The point is he is obligated to prove himself eligible.

BTW, have you seen Kerry’s military medical records yet? The ones that would refute the Swifties accusations of negligible wounds for his 3 purple hearts?


125 posted on 11/17/2008 4:05:15 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: captain_dave

I regularly donate to his political campaigns

He is a much better speaker than the world famous BO.


126 posted on 11/17/2008 4:06:18 PM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Beckwith; All

I’m sorry Beckwith

In a nutshell, are the witnesses the retired Kenyan missionairies?

It was a hurried, excited response to incoming responses on FRMail.

SSR= Selective Service Registration

CA AIP= California American Independent Party

PC(USA) = Presbyterian Church U.S.A.


127 posted on 11/17/2008 4:13:11 PM PST by Gemsbok (Follow the trail,...,.,.,.,..... I know where it leads)
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To: marshmallow

Is Barak Obama a natural born citizen — yes or no???


128 posted on 11/17/2008 4:13:29 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Beckwith

Then why file and complete a divorce, if no marriage?


129 posted on 11/17/2008 4:14:50 PM PST by Gemsbok (Follow the trail,...,.,.,.,..... I know where it leads)
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To: seanrobins
Can someone then tell us WHAT the facts are, and WHAT the sources for those facts are?

There is one indisputable fact, and that is that Obama is using every trick in the book to prevent the release of his vault copy birth certificate.

The source for this fact: the Obamamessiah!

There must be a reason.
130 posted on 11/17/2008 4:15:49 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: seanrobins
You need to put this in your favorites:

The Obama File

Stanley Ann Dunham was named after her father Stanley Armour Dunham. He had wanted a son, so when his daughter was born, he named her Stanley Ann Dunham, after himself.
131 posted on 11/17/2008 4:20:11 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Gemsbok

Would these have connections to the Bishops that Berg lists as witnesses in his suit?


132 posted on 11/17/2008 4:20:50 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: seanrobins
We need to start “debrieding” the RINO’s and the so0called “centrists” and “moderates” from the party, and refocus on real conservatism, for the first time in eight or twn years. That’s the way to beat Bambi.

Not putting on those shiney metallic hats.

It's nice to see a few more voices of reason on these BC threads. I suggested the same thing on another thread and was called a troll, a traitor and told to go back to DU. (Nothing funnier than being told to go back to DU by people who registered here less than a month ago.)

133 posted on 11/17/2008 4:23:37 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Cicero

“Nor has he provided any other basic records: health records, academic records, college thesis, or anything else.”

Here’s the list:

Original birth certificate — Not released
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Besuki School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released but under suspicion of being a fraud
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned - of course if it’s unsigned??)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None


134 posted on 11/17/2008 4:23:55 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: hoosiermama

It is possible.

I’m searching for Presbyt. Church news site on the articles regarding the Kenyan murder in Nairobi of our missionairies and will post what I find.

It may not have been them, but the coincidence is something strange.


135 posted on 11/17/2008 4:24:14 PM PST by Gemsbok (Follow the trail,...,.,.,.,..... I know where it leads)
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To: seanrobins
but its wasting time and energy on nonesense like this...

I'm glad you posted. You obviously are smarter than everyone here, so let me ask you a question?

Why is Obama fighting the release of his vault copy birth certificate if it's just NONSENSE?

I would really love to know.
136 posted on 11/17/2008 4:28:06 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: seanrobins
There are kooks on the Right as well as the Left.

I'm addressing one right now!
137 posted on 11/17/2008 4:33:59 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: marshmallow
"Certifications of Live Birth" are legal proof of birth.

Well, here's proof that Obamas "Certificate Of Live Birth" means nothing.

Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country.

This is straight from the Hawaii Department Of Health Website

. In other words, the "Certificate of Live Birth" posted on Obama's website, Factcheck.org and the Daily KOS doesn't prove anything, simply because someone born in a foreign country could file for an amended certificate -- click the link, read it for yourself.

Obama's sister Maya was born in Jakarta, Indonesia, but Anna Dunham registered her as "born in Honolulu" shortly after her birth. Maya has a State of Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth, just like Obama -- proves nothing.

138 posted on 11/17/2008 4:40:26 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: marshmallow
Legally it's proof

Proof of what?
139 posted on 11/17/2008 4:43:27 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: marshmallow

I have in this case. It doesn’t look like you have.


140 posted on 11/17/2008 4:49:58 PM PST by TruthCanHurt
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