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To: Cheburashka

He would have to be a US non-citizen meaning a permanent resident, asylum seeker or other category granted US protection.

Or he would have to be a dual citizen.

In the thread here and elsewhere, it is asserted that he may have been adopted by his Indonesian father and that such an adoption would have stripped his US citizenship (if any) as Indonesia did not and does not allow dual citizenship, and the US must comply in international adoption cases with the adopting country’s laws.

So the question then goes to his college records which he has refused to release. There is suspicion that he was funded as a foreigner by foreigners.

What these suspicions plausibly point out are that Barack Obama was confused about allegiances and about how to pay for his Ivy League education. He is a smart man and seems to have put a puzzle of shrouded pieces together to portray his status on a clean slate, albeit not factual.

If I had a confused past as Obama’s, and I had a benefactor willing to pay my way through prestigious Ivy League academic institutions on condition that I was a Muslim and a citizen of a Muslim country, then I would not under any circumstances jeopardize my chance by revealing that I may possibly be a US Citizen (or feign to be one) and I certainly would not register for the SSS if I could claim to be legally a foreigner.

I know quite a bit about Hawaii and the Punahou School on Oahu. I know in such a backdrop that Obama would likely want to continue his quest for elite status by attending college at an institution recognized by elitists. But funding is a problem. And it is entirely possible that young Obama saw an opening that required him to ‘play’ a role. Later after Harvard Law School when political openings were available, he saw a need to recast himself again, and that is why he is keeping certain records secret and covering up.

We have a right to have suspicions and to ask questions. And we do not deserve to be called names or to be cast as fringe dwellers because we ask questions.

All of these questions could be easily answered. The issues raised by the questions are not as important as the coverup taking place.

This is similar to Nixon’s Watergate in which the crimes were petty and inconsequestial in comparision to the coverup. If Nixon had been forthcoming from day one on Watergate he would never have needed to resign.


69 posted on 11/17/2008 12:32:50 AM PST by Hostage
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To: Hostage
In the thread here and elsewhere, it is asserted that he may have been adopted by his Indonesian father and that such an adoption would have stripped his US citizenship (if any) as Indonesia did not and does not allow dual citizenship, and the US must comply in international adoption cases with the adopting country’s laws.

There is no provision in American law that allows a parent or stepparent to renounce a minor child's citizenship in the name of the minor child. Period. American law covers American citizenship and Indonesian law has no relevance.

Insert picture of Calvin urinating on the Indonesian law code here.

Unfortunately Barack Obama is an American citizen, much to my regret. Your statement that the U.S. must conform to Indonesian law shows that you have been misled and/or are confused.

There is nothing in American law that forbids dual citizenship. There is nothing in American law that forbids a dual citizen from being President if he has sufficient electoral votes.

Barack Obama's character and past may make him an unsuitable President, but the American people have elected him. The American people will endure the consequences of their folly.

70 posted on 11/17/2008 2:39:12 AM PST by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground: where PCP is not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: Hostage

No one who has any knowledge of US law has asserted that an adoption can strip a US citizen of his citizenship. On the other hand there have been legal citations posted on other threads showing that citizenship cannot be removed in such a manner.

The only way citizenship is lost is through a conscious legal act of the citizen. Forget the Indonesian issue it is a dead letter.

Only proving he is not a natural citizen will keep him out of the White House.


88 posted on 11/17/2008 12:02:35 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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