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To: 08bil98z24
No Hispanics, no Moderates. Brilliant strategy. What voting block are we going to get rid of next?

Would you like to point out which past GOP electoral victories were accomplished with Hispanic votes?

You are advocating nonsense. We presented moderation to the entire country and lost. Maybe we ought to try presenting conservatism.
36 posted on 11/17/2008 11:31:52 AM PST by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: Terpfen
Would you like to point out which past GOP electoral victories were accomplished with Hispanic votes?

Up until very recently, Hispanics were a fairly small portion of the electorate. Something like 1% in 1970. But that time has passed, The GOP can't realistically expect to remain competitive electorally if it is willing to write off an overwhelming majority of the 25% or so of the electorate that is black or hispanic.

You are advocating nonsense. We presented moderation to the entire country and lost. Maybe we ought to try presenting conservatism.

The messenger is as important as the message. The GOP needs to figure out a way to recruit conservative Hispanic candidates for all political levels. I think we need to look at Hispanics who were in the military as well as Hispanic small business owners to help get the conservative message out to the Hispanic community.

37 posted on 11/17/2008 11:37:53 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Terpfen
You are advocating nonsense.

Ding Dong, your wrong!

New Mexico went to Bush in 2000 and 2004 because of the Hispanic vote. McCain did not get the Hispanic vote and lost New Mexico this time around ...

Advocating non-sense my foot. Your advocating minority status forever. That is nonsense. I simply stated we can not ignore moderates and Hispanic voters.

Your acting like I said lets shove moderation down everyone's throat. I have said no such thing. I simply stated lets not kick them to the curve. We do need their support to win an election.

How hard is that to understand? It must be pretty hard to some.

Besides, we presented an "uncool old man" to run against a "cool black man" this time around. Besides that ultimate disadvantage (which basically was a media distortion), we also lost overwhelmingly because of the constant liberal media bias. You know, the ultra liberal left and the silent Conservative response ... We also lost because McCain limited his campaign spending to the public finance crap and Osama did not. We also lost because McCain acted like a wimp the whole campaign and did not make noise. We lost because Bush in all his wisdom took horrible advice (thanks Paulson) and suddenly we had an economic crises on our hands a month before the election. And we lost because for some stupid reason, the public felt like a Democrat cared more about the economy than the Republicans due to the MSM. And Conservatives/Republicans sat back and whispered while the left screamed out loud.

We presented moderation to the entire country and lost. Maybe we ought to try presenting conservatism.

The above reasons I listed are why we lost. To not understand why we lost, we are simply asking for history to repeat itself. Without fixing those problems, we can present all sorts of conservatism and it will not matter.

Either way, something short of a miracle, I have a feeling we are going to have 8 years of Osama Obama. Unless terrorists strike and people realize how safe we were under Republicans, it will take 8 years for people to get sick of Obama judging by past election patterns.

It took 8 years before Clinton was done in office. After 8 years, people were tired of his policies, hence Al Gore lost in 2000.

It took 8 years before Bush was done in office. After 8 years, people were tired of his policies, the argument was made by the MSM that McCain would be the same old, and hence McCain lost in 2008.

39 posted on 11/17/2008 12:25:08 PM PST by 08bil98z24 (Disgusted, Disappointed, Demoralized - Its causing me to post long ranting replies Sorry!)
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