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To: timestax
And the new ball game is...

Minorities of color will vote their color. Henceforward, America will become increasingly racist. Minorities will vote their race. Whites have unilaterally disarmed in the face of racist voting by African Americans and to a lesser degree by Hispanics.

As the spoils systems of the Democrat party leeches out goodies on the basis of political correctness, virtually all of America will become as corrupt as Chicago. The rule of law will give away to political correctness. Corruption now a newly defined and rendered acceptable will be funneled through our institutions, such as our universities, our churches, our courts, and our municipalities. There will be new institutions like civilian indoctrination camps. The new ball game means that conventional electioneering will as utterly irrelevant as campaigning from the back of the train.

I give conservatism about a 50-50 chance to survive in any form recognizable by my generation. Most of traditional America will be befuddled as we witness, time after time, appeals to reason increasingly falling on ears as deaf as they were on November 4, 2008.


30 posted on 11/16/2008 9:36:52 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
As the spoils systems of the Democrat party leeches out goodies on the basis of political correctness, virtually all of America will become as corrupt as Chicago.

And the best place for Hussein to start--

will be the hundreds of thousands of new worthless, meaningless, 'do-nothing', 'make work' government jobs that Hussein has promised.

31 posted on 11/16/2008 9:42:15 AM PST by stockstrader (At least Biden tried to warn us of the dangers of an inexperienced and unqualified ticket)
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To: nathanbedford
Minorities of color will vote their color.

Really?

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.


59 posted on 11/16/2008 2:18:26 PM PST by rdb3 (Get out the putter. This one's on the green.)
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To: nathanbedford; rdb3

If the GOP fatalisticly gives up and lets itself be tagged the white, Christian party, and retreats behind the mason-dixon line, abandons the cities and lives in rural areas only, then the politics of patronage, dependency and spoils will triumph as the Democrats take advantage of demographic trends to use the minority vote and the single/youth/dependent-class vote as the lever to power. Then your scenario will play out. But I consider that the Cassandra-like warning not to be inevitable precisely because we know the trends. We’ve been there before - ethic white immigrants in the mid-century were reliable Democratic voters - Irish and Italian catholics, slavs, others. The GOP made inroads by appealing on issues to turn them into “Reagan Democrats” and know in many cases Republicans.

It will be a very difficult swim upstream, but we can and we will take efforts to make sure it doesnt happen.
- In the 1990s, Christie Whitman got 40% of the African American vote in her New Jersey races
- 4 years ago, Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote (to 31% this year)
- even just getting CLOSE to parity in youth would erase the Dem advantage this year
- Consider the flip-side. The white voters reject racial spoils emphatically. The white voters who voted for Obama got ‘sold’ that he was post-racial. It was a myth, so let him live or die by that, and let us hold his feet to the fire and GET HIM FIRED if he becomes the political correctness President (that white voters will abhor). The Democrats have a pitiful share of white married and white Christian voters, and for good reasons - they have nothing to offer self-reliant people who adhere to American traditional values.

We can completely smash the politics of political correctness by getting back to equality of opportunity and not giving an inch of moral high ground on this. We hae seen this, where the Ward Connerly led propositions win time and time again. There are sufficient minority voters who adhere to conservative values (viz the whole prop 8 vote) that we can win races.

The problem is that the GOP brand is less sellable than conservative values, while the Dem brand is more sellable than a liberal agenda by itself. If we fixed that disconnect only and nothing else we would be the majority party.

What to do?

- Fix our vision (on clear and clean conservative principles), fix our brand (by cleaning up GOP act);
- Get ‘competence’ ‘integrity’ ‘intelligence’ and ‘character’ back as labels we associate with Republicans.
- Reach out to the groups the Dems are taking over that are amenable to our message (middle-class and traditional values/Christian minority voters, youth who agree with small govt/liberty messages, etc)

Our biggest challenges will be the elites vs populist issues, where we must have a credible economic blueprint that both businesses and people buy into.


68 posted on 11/16/2008 3:55:16 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM - Change we need: Replace the Democrat Congress)
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