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To: freepersup

Yes I do see it as black and white. Having done extensive study for the last decade on the Founding and Founders there is no doubt in my mind that they considered alligiance as the most important aspect of “Natural Born”.
It would be a complete violation of their ethical view had children of citizen agents of the state been excluded from full citizenship.

It simply makes no sense which is why this case is a distraction and destructive of the need to expose Zero ineligibility. I have no confidence in this guy’s motives if he is willing to ignore such a basic concept. Only Obama will profit from this distraction.

The Founders did not exclude citizens born abroad only those who had not been in the colonies for 14 years prior to the ratification i.e. 1773. I call this the Hamilton Clause since it made him eligible.


2,485 posted on 11/23/2008 9:50:31 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: arrogantsob

“Yes I do see it as black and white. Having done extensive study for the last decade on the Founding and Founders there is no doubt in my mind that they considered allegiance as the most important aspect of “Natural Born”
It would be a complete violation of their ethical view had children of citizen agents of the state been excluded from full citizenship”

I agree with you that it is clear that the Founding Fathers considered allegiance as being significant. Since you have done a lot of research on our Founding Fathers, perhaps you can answer a question that has been on my mind through all of this. At the time of our Founding Fathers didn’t they also believe allegiance was only passed down through the father and not the mother?


2,492 posted on 11/29/2008 11:22:09 AM PST by Flamenco Lady
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