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To: Petronski

“I am referring to the contrast between Catholic and CINO.”

When I see priests like this speaking in direct opposition to the Catholic Catechism, I am tempted to become a CINO but I consider him flawed, not the Church. The Catechism specifically states:

“Man has the right to act according to his conscience and in freedom so as personally to make moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his conscience. Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience, especially in religious matters” (ibid., paragraph 1782).

This was reaffirmed by the greatest (IMO) human figure of the 20th century, JP II, in Veritatis Splendor:

“while in the sphere of morality a pluralism of opinions and of kinds of behaviour could be tolerated, these being left to the judgment of the individual subjective conscience or to the diversity of social and cultural contexts.”

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_06081993_veritatis-splendor_en.html

Basically, this priest is acting in direct contradiction of the teachings of the Holy See and by using the threat of witholding communion, he is a bully.


83 posted on 11/13/2008 8:46:24 PM PST by jackmercer
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To: jackmercer; Petronski

>>“while in the sphere of morality a pluralism of opinions and of kinds of behaviour could be tolerated, these being left to the judgment of the individual subjective conscience or to the diversity of social and cultural contexts.”<<

You’re nitpicking a document. Life is the number one issue and abortion is instant excommunication.
JPII wasn’t talking about allowing abortion. That’s a “you wish” situation.
Social and cultural context goes more with handholding at the Our Father than letting something that the Catholic Church feels is a mortal sin, be shrugged off.

So we get to the point where everyone is euthanizing Granny. Do you really thing the Church is going to use the Veritatis Splendor to okay it?


97 posted on 11/14/2008 5:10:39 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: jackmercer

The priest isn’t forcing the congregants to do anything. He is describing the consequences of their actions. They remain free to act in a manner that separates them from Christ. We all are.


104 posted on 11/14/2008 6:33:40 AM PST by Petronski (Things fall apart, it's scientific.)
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