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At What Point Does Atlas Shrug?
National Review ^ | November 13, 2008 | Peter Kirsanow

Posted on 11/13/2008 4:20:54 PM PST by NCjim

During the presidential election campaign many were dumbfounded upon hearing for the first time that at least a third of Americans pay no income taxes whatsoever. The Tax Foundation notes that in 2006, 45.6 million filers (33%) paid no income tax whatsoever. Under current law, in 2009 47 million filers—representing approximately 96 million individuals— will pay no income tax.

The Foundation maintains that under Obama's tax plan 63 million filers— representing 44% of all returns— will pay no income tax. In contrast, in 1985, just 16.5% of filers paid no income tax.

It appears Obama wasn't kidding about redistributing the wealth, although he appears to be somewhat late to the game.

At the other end of the spectrum, IRS data show that in 2006 the top 10% of all filers ( $109,000 and above in taxable income) paid 71% of all income taxes. The top 25% ( $65,000 and above) paid 86% of all income taxes.

Exempting huge swaths of the populace from the income tax burden while piling that burden on a shrinking cohort is a prescription for economic, political and social dysfunction.

Eventually, even fans of steeply progressive taxation might be compelled to ask, "Do the top 25% of filers really access/consume 86% of all government services?" Obviously, the relationship between government and citizen isn't a retail one, but we shouldn't be surprised if the imbalance displayed by the above figures begins to prompt such unvarnished questions around kitchen tables across the country.

Sure, many of those who don't pay income taxes still pay excise, payroll, etc. taxes. But income taxes represent the biggest tax bite by far. The anger and resentment at bailing out Wall Street, Detroit, etc. isn't going to be dampened by the belief that nearly half of Americans won't be doing much bailing at all.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; atlasshrugs; bho2008; kirsanow; lp; peterkirsanow
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To: Publius

Atlas is shrugging in my household.
I plan my own personal economic boycott of the economy.
No purchases unless absolutely necessary.
Nothing made in China unless I need it to save a life.

I figure if trickle-up economics is Obummer’s plan, I owe it to him to let him see it work.


21 posted on 11/13/2008 4:33:57 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Even more amazing to me is people like Charles Barkley and Campbell Brown voted for the zero.


22 posted on 11/13/2008 4:34:09 PM PST by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Publius

Of course, I left out the main category I’d like to prohibit from voting for the reason stated: Federal employees. I’m thinking that our overwhelming majority in the military is more than outweighed by a monstrous Federal bureaucracy comprised primarily of leftists.


23 posted on 11/13/2008 4:34:29 PM PST by branch15_5
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To: silverleaf

YEP....as of January 2009....we are Atlas shrugging....we are preparing now....


24 posted on 11/13/2008 4:35:10 PM PST by goodnesswins (CONSERVATIVES....saving America's A** whether you like it or not!)
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To: Kellis91789
“How difficult/easy would it be for that top 1% to opt out?”

Ah, the bastards are ahead of you. The latest additions to the Patriot Act makes it difficult as of 1/1/2009 to move assets outside the US. If the government thinks you are changing citizenship to avoid paying taxes, they are prepared to use any number of means to get to you.

They have shut the exits.

25 posted on 11/13/2008 4:35:32 PM PST by Publius
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To: branch15_5
If you receive more money from the federal government — either by interest income or wealth redistribution — than you pay in, you don’t vote.

You disenfranchising fascist (/sarc), how could you suggest that 80% of the democRAT party be declared ineligable to vote themselves benefits from the public tough.

26 posted on 11/13/2008 4:35:35 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Those who live by the sword risk being shot by those who donÂ’t.)
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To: NCjim

At the University of Hawaii in Hilo Hawaii I took Econ 101. This was around 1980. The teacher assigned “Atlas Shrugged.”

I still can’t believe I learned free market capitalism at the University of Hawaii.


27 posted on 11/13/2008 4:36:23 PM PST by Tony in Hawaii (NUTS!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You do know that we still manufacture more goods than the number 2 and 3 nations in the world, combined (we make more than Japan and China together, with just 1/5th the population they have).


28 posted on 11/13/2008 4:36:24 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: mad_as_he$$
The good news is that this may backfire on the conspirators when more manufacturing returns here because it will be cheaper.

Not necessarily. The unions will be waiting like vultures.

29 posted on 11/13/2008 4:36:44 PM PST by Publius
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To: Publius
Atlas shrugs when the producers go on strike and refuse to produce for the looters and the moochers.

Is bankruptcy close enough?

30 posted on 11/13/2008 4:37:31 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
True but it is something like 38% (depending on who's number you use) that it was even in the 80’s.
31 posted on 11/13/2008 4:37:43 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: concerned about politics
I think Atlas is already shrugging.

Yup, though not in the same ways that the book relates. There are signs...increased gun and ammo sales, stocking up on canned food, selling off in the market, turning off the MSM, ignoring looking at or listening to the POTUS elect, complete opposition by a significant sub-group to coming changes, closing ranks and making plans for alternative communications. It is there.

32 posted on 11/13/2008 4:37:51 PM PST by Canedawg (The media is a ass, a idiot.," said Mr. Bumble.)
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To: Publius

Yes. They are slow learners.


33 posted on 11/13/2008 4:38:15 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: tpanther

Your shocked by Campbell Brown voting for zero ...
She’s an obvious liberal hack ....

no surprise there.


34 posted on 11/13/2008 4:38:20 PM PST by RED SOUTH
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To: bamahead

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35 posted on 11/13/2008 4:40:41 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
The Foundation maintains that under Obama's tax plan 63 million filers— representing 44% of all returns— will pay no income tax.

Good article. My understanding is that a lot of people who don't owe taxes don't file returns. I wonder, in addition to the 63 million filers who pay no income tax, how many millions of non-filers are there who are getting a lot of government benefits at the expense of taxpayers.

36 posted on 11/13/2008 4:40:52 PM PST by lonevoice (Ich bin ein plumber)
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To: NCjim
He's shrugging like hell at my house too. I am going to be dragged kicking and screaming into the liberal Utopia.

What pisses me off is there is no incentive for the takers to get out and help pull the wagon. May as well ride.

37 posted on 11/13/2008 4:41:02 PM PST by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: Ouderkirk

Quite easily, actually.

You know, it would be fun to watch the eggheads try to explain why that would be a bad idea.

I guess I have always had a problem with folks who have a say in running things they don’t pay for. And why I’ve always looked askance at Santa. Santa can get some credit when Santa contributes some funds.


38 posted on 11/13/2008 4:41:35 PM PST by branch15_5
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To: NCjim
(33%) paid no income tax whatsoever

What I've learned in the last few years, since I live in a cave, is that most of these people who pay no tax actually get money back. How does that work? How does one pay no tax and get a $1,400 "refund"? I want in on that deal.

39 posted on 11/13/2008 4:43:19 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: NCjim

No more charity. No more helping panhandlers. No more donating my free time.

My money is going to food, clothing, shelter, guns and ammo.


40 posted on 11/13/2008 4:43:32 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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