[buffyt]

Actually The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America isn't that bad. Depends on where you are. The one here in Lake Jackson, Texas isn't very liberal at all. I have been to it and also to the other Synods of the Lutheran church and not all ELCS churches are liberal. The sermons are very conservative and they use the old liturgy and catechism.

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

Oh, please. I know a lot about the ELCA. I grew up in the ALC and in 1988 they merged with some other "Lutheran" bodies and became the very liberal ELCA.

They are among the worst. That doesn't mean there may not still be some traditional pastors in the system but they're getting fewer and fewer.

Anyone still attending an ELCA "church" does not care about the true word of God and also does not care about their country.

The ELCA is in full fellowship with the Episcopal "church". This from another thread running today on FR regarding the Episcopal Church's involvment in Prop 8 in CA.

"Two more events in support of gay marriage are planned for today: a 4 p.m. street rally in Encinitas and a 7 p.m. interfaith service at St. Paul's Episcopal Cathedral near Balboa Park."

There is nothing good about the ELCA. Needless to say we left the ELCA years ago.

[RobinOfKingston]

Actually The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America isn't that bad. Depends on where you are. The one here in Lake Jackson, Texas isn't very liberal at all. I have been to it and also to the other Synods of the Lutheran church and not all ELCS churches are liberal. The sermons are very conservative and they use the old liturgy and catechism.

Wake up, buffyt. Hanson makes liberal proclamations and demands on government in the name of all 4 1/2 million (and dropping) members. Including you. Money you put in the collection plate goes to liberal causes. Go to their web site and look for "Lutheran Office of Government Affairs." See how much of that agenda you agree with. Local congregations can take on a local flavor, but nationally, and the vast preponderance of synods, it is a lost cause. I know whereof I speak, having spent nearly a decade moving the Lutheran congregation I belong to out of that mess. We made it.

Take a look at lcmc.net and see if there is a congregation near you.