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Report Calls for Overhaul of Power Grid to Handle Sun and Wind Power
New York Times ^ | November 9, 2008 | Matthwe L Wald

Posted on 11/11/2008 4:16:17 PM PST by Lorianne

Adding electricity from the wind and the sun could increase the frequency of blackouts and reduce the reliability of the nation’s electrical grid, an industry report says.

The North American Electric Reliability Corporation says in a report scheduled for release Monday that unless appropriate measures are taken to improve transmission of electricity, rules reducing carbon dioxide emissions by utilities could impair the reliability of the power grid. The corporation is the industry body authorized by the federal government to enforce reliability rules for the interlocking system of electrical power generation and transmission.

Such carbon-reduction rules are already in place in 27 states and four Canadian provinces, and new ones could be mandated nationally in both countries. They may force changes in the utility industry, the group said, including the shutting down of coal plants that are located near load centers, and substituting power from wind turbines or solar plants in remote areas.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: energy; enviroprofiteering; powergrid

1 posted on 11/11/2008 4:16:18 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

The fiction: Carbon dioxide causes global warming.

The fact: global warming causes an increase in carbon dioxide.


2 posted on 11/11/2008 4:25:12 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Lorianne

An energy meltdown is coming. You need to start preparing in the next few years. The meltdown will probably have differential impact across the country. You should also have fire arms and plenty of ammo to deal with the looters.


3 posted on 11/11/2008 4:26:38 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Lorianne
The government needs to take lots more money from the productive economy and funnel it to favored groups who will build a new power-grid.
4 posted on 11/11/2008 4:39:00 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Lorianne

This is the result the watermelons want. Destroy the electrical grid, destroy the economy, take over.


5 posted on 11/11/2008 4:39:36 PM PST by Argus (Stuff Compassionate and Maverick - just try plain old CONSERVATISM again)
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To: Lorianne

“appropriate measures are taken to improve transmission of electricity”

Boondoggle slushfund blah blah blah.


6 posted on 11/11/2008 4:41:19 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Lorianne; calcowgirl; Horusra; CygnusXI; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 11/11/2008 4:49:20 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: Lorianne
Good luck with that.

Environmentalists don't like powerlines.

8 posted on 11/11/2008 5:03:42 PM PST by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: Lorianne

Sure...and let’s triple residential electric rates in the process.

Out here in the West, hydroelectric power is not even allowed to be considered a “renewable resource” because if it is included in the equation, it shows exactly how outrageously expensive and inefficient these “alternatives” are.


9 posted on 11/11/2008 5:04:20 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: Lorianne

Is this like saying we need to beef up the suspension on trucks that carry steel so they can transport helium balloons along with the steel? It’s probably more like saying we need to add stabilizing power generation structures (aka power plants) to accommodate the removal of power plants.


10 posted on 11/11/2008 5:24:56 PM PST by infool7 (Ignorance isn't bliss its slavery in denial)
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To: Lorianne

“Adding electricity from the wind and the sun could increase the frequency of blackouts and reduce the reliability of the nation’s electrical grid, an industry report says.”

Is this what we want? Liberals are morons.


11 posted on 11/11/2008 6:00:38 PM PST by popdonnelly (Don't lose sight of your conservative principles.)
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To: Lorianne

It would be really cool to not have to use the power grid at all. And so if you want to generate your own power with sun, water, or wind, get off the grid and help yourself.


12 posted on 11/11/2008 6:11:04 PM PST by dr_who
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To: dr_who

I want a back yard nuclear reactor.


13 posted on 11/11/2008 6:18:30 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: popdonnelly

It is all part of the Clowden-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis. The socialists are trying to nationalize the mortgage and banking industry by “rescuing” them from a crisis they were forced into by the leftists. Next will be the energy industry, the healthcare and insurance industries.


14 posted on 11/11/2008 6:20:50 PM PST by MtnClimber (You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows,)
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To: Lorianne

It’s interesting that the article never bothers to explain why these alternative energy sources could be harmful to the grid, aside from blaming some anti-carbon emission regulations. Then the rest of the article is spent telling us how wonderful these regulations are.


15 posted on 11/11/2008 6:26:00 PM PST by dr_who
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To: FreedomPoster

Not entirely out of the question, but I doubt the government would let you have one.


16 posted on 11/11/2008 6:26:55 PM PST by dr_who
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To: dr_who

They’re harmful because they are not reliable sources of power production, and big electrical power grids don’t like sources of instability. A big front comes through, and your photovoltaics aren’t generating all of the sudden. The wind stops, and your wind farms aren’t producing. Your choices are A) get some more power running, quickly (probably fossil-fuel produced), B) deal with brownouts or even blackouts.

Texas had a near-blackout last winter due to winds stopping.

Loss of wind causes Texas power grid emergency
http://tinyurl.com/23lrxz


17 posted on 11/11/2008 7:29:40 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Is that the market that everybody’s (now out-of-date) hero, T. Bone Pickens, wants to corner?


18 posted on 11/11/2008 11:39:43 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Lorianne

We ought to go *full speed ahead* on these “mini-nuke power plants”. This looks like a good deal. We need more nuclear power here...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/nov/09/miniature-nuclear-reactors-los-alamos#history-byline

http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-12.17b.html

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/12/toshibas-home-n.html


19 posted on 11/12/2008 12:14:58 PM PST by Star Traveler
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