Posted on 11/10/2008 12:13:38 PM PST by Ebenezer
Amid the euphoria in the recent elections, three shining lights appeared on the horizon that the left is trying hard to ignore or explain away. The lights came as a killjoy to an otherwise festive occasion and raise serious questions about what the victory means.
Indeed, if the elections were about a change of direction, the results should reflect the direction of the Culture Wars. No one can deny that the cutting edge of this battle is best represented by the same-sex “marriage” issue.
Even more than abortion, same-sex “marriage” is supposedly the wave of a liberal future. And yet on November 4, the “wave of the future” lost.
Overcoming incredible obstacles, pro-family Americans put together a winning combination to win big and shatter the idea of a liberal mandate to change the American family.
Despite being outspent by an estimated margin of 3-to-1, pro-family advocates won big in Florida where a family protection amendment needed more than a simple majority to win. With 62 percent of the vote, traditional marriage supporters were victorious.
In Arizona, pro-family activists actually reversed the only victory that the pro-homosexual movement could claim in the marriage amendment fight. In 2006, a marriage amendment lost and was heralded as beginning of the end of all pro-marriage amendments.
Arizona pro-family activists fought back and won. Now marriage amendment promoters nationwide can claim 30 out of 30 victories. They are undefeated.
The pro-homosexual lobby, however, can claim no electoral victory. Rather it has relied on judicial ruling that impose same-sex “marriage” on states without any popular vote. Their record is now 2 out of 3.
Of course, the biggest victory was California. The state’s supreme court had already imposed same-sex “marriage” on the population. Californians fought back in one of the most hotly contested initiatives in American history. Both sides spent a total of $70 million in a high-profile campaign that promised to be the decisive test for the nation.
The outpouring of support for the traditional family was impressive. One spokesman for the movement reported over one hundred thousand volunteers worked to defeat the measure, contributing time and millions of dollars. In the end, traditional marriage won with a simple majority of 52 percent.
Of course, the pro-homosexual movement would have held the pro-family movement to the results of the election had they won. It would have been proclaimed the “will of the people.” Now, however, the people’s will seems not to matter as three lawsuits were filed in California courts seeking to have Proposition 8 declared invalid. The principal argument is that Proposition 8 is a constitutional revision that cannot be accomplished by constitutional amendment! It is hard to imagine why anyone in their right mind would spend $37 million fighting for something that they suspected was invalid anyway.
The tenacious pro-family movement will fight such moves. However, no one can deny the fact that: If California, one of the most liberal states, is against same-sex marriage, then what about the other states? As San Francisco Gavin Newsom stated when same-sex “marriage” was approved by the California Supreme Court: “As California goes, so goes the rest of the nation. It's inevitable. This door's wide open now. It's going to happen, whether you like it or not."
Indeed, his declaration is proving all too true.
Faith of Our Fathers ping
They’ve got enough gays there to see what they’re really all about. I saw in NYC and believe me, it ain’t pretty.
Guess that's change the homo lobby wasn't counting on getting, but it's change I can believe in.
The pro-gay “marriage” folks blame their loss on misinformation spread by the RCC and LDS. They also take heart that the 52.5% to 47.5% victory is lower than that of the original bill that passed a few years ago. They figure the trend is on their side.
It was an "outpouring" of blacks and latinos that voted to pass the measure, idiot.
Well I guess that would mean that Obama’s win 52% to McCain’s 46% is really a ‘trend’ for the GOP?
A win is a win. They are trying to overturn it by scaring voters and intimidating churches.
They need to be stopped.
The 9th curcuit court of appeals is falling over themselves trying to oveturn our votes as we type. If history is any indicator.
It ain’t over till the folks in the black robes sing. California’s “Republican” governor is telling gays to fight the will of the people, in court.
Girlie man!
So we’re giving the country to terrorists, banning free speech, taking guns away from the law abiding, letting in floods of illegals, packing our courts with the most radical of the left imaginable and we’re happy about some stupid, worthless gay marriage initiative?
I’m sorry - but WHO CARES?
Gay people are going to want to stay single anyway when they see how much their taxes will go up under Obama.
This is considered the only upshot of this election? Man are we screwed...
If any activist judges usurp the will of the people and try to overturn their vote, then these judges should be removed as quickly as possible. No doubt the gays will go “judge-shopping” before going to court.
The thing that probably woke the Yes on Prop. 8 people up was when they saw how quickly the gays would begin to indoctrinate kids in school......as young as kindergarten. Gays are not content to simply “get married” and let it go at that.
This is why I have to laugh when these critters ask how their getting “married” is going to hurt anyone else.
The pro-Prop 8 side pounded the message that failure to pass the amendment would mean that “gay marriage would be taught in the schools.”
“LIES!” Screams the opposition. “We have no intention of indoctrinating children in school.”
Okay, so now they’re saying that public sentiment is trending towards a softening on acceptance of said gay marriage—mostly from youth. Eventually, pro-traditional marriage people will be dying off and replaced by younger voters who will surely let them marry.
Why? Because they are already indoctrinating youth to believe gay marriage is as NORMAL as traditional marriage?
Meanwhile, proponents of polygamy, beastiality and pediphilia are waiting in the wings.
I really fear for the culture my grandchildren will live in.
“So we’re giving the country to terrorists, banning free speech, taking guns away from the law abiding, letting in floods of illegals, packing our courts with the most radical of the left imaginable and we’re happy about some stupid, worthless gay marriage initiative?
I’m sorry - but WHO CARES?”
Please do NOT be so CLUELESS AND IGNORANT. Defending the traditional family by protecting marriage is about defending the structure that will enable you to enjoy these other issues. Get your head out of the sand. ALL THESE ISSUES ARE LINKED!
THIS GAY MARRIAGE VOTE WAS THE SECOND-MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION BESIDES PRESIDENT.
HAD PROP 8 FAILED WE WOULD BE HURTLING TOWARDS EURO-SOCIALISM RIGHT NOW.
Be as unhappy as you want to be about Obama’s win, but the fact is that this was a shred of good news on a bleak election landscape.
“This is considered the only upshot of this election? Man are we screwed...”
If you find other good news, share it.
The infamous Ninth Circuit has zip to do with it. This is a state issue, pure and simple. But never fear, the state judges will figure out SOME legalistic contortion to use to overcome the will of the people. They've done so several times here in the "great northwestern" state of Washington. I figure that the judges in California are equally innovative.
Exactly. They can use the same argument - to deny their choice of sex partner is "discrimination".
A few weeks ago there was a conference held at the facility where I work - "The National Conference of Catholic Homosexual and Lesbian Ministers". I saw a pamphlet one the attendees had received. It was titled "I Am As God Made Me".
I was sorely tempted to ask if that applied to pedophiles also.
We don’t march and threaten Catholics and Mormons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiwc9ybBiAw&feature=related
We can boycott the corporations funding the repeal of Prop 8.
Boycotts can work for our side too.
There are many corporations funding the repeal of Prop 8.
This link takes us right to the corporate sponsor page to repel Prop 8:
http://laglc.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=SU_CORPORATIONS
Also Ohio families turned down a state issue to allow casino gambling.
Pelosi: Prop 8 supporters might have been too dumb to grasp what they were doing
Hot Air | November 07, 2008 | ALLAHPUNDIT
Posted on 11/08/2008 10:37:25 PM PST by RobinMasters
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128578/posts
Pelosi rues passage of Prop. 8
San Francisco Chronicle | 11/7/8 | Zachary Coile
Posted on 11/07/2008 11:28:08 PM PST by SmithL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128505/posts
-guess who’s she’s callin’ dumb?-
Over The Rainbow (Mark Steyn: Guess Who’s Using The “N” Word Alert)
National Review | 11/7/2008 | Mark Steyn
Posted on 11/07/2008 9:05:55 PM PST by goldstategop
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128464/posts
Black vote puts California Prop 8 Gay Marriage Ban Over the Top
The Canadian Press | Nov 9, 2008 | Canadian Press
Posted on 11/09/2008 2:10:46 PM PST by mporter345
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128979/posts
Most of California’s Black Voters Backed Gay Marriage Ban
Washington Post
Posted on 11/07/2008 12:13:40 AM PST by Chet 99
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2127689/posts
Black voters helped Prop. 8 passage [Obama helped pass Prop 8]
The Sacramento Bee | Nov. 07, 2008 | Susan Ferriss and Phillip Reese
Posted on 11/07/2008 12:21:08 PM PST by TheDon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128107/posts
Prop 8 critics have little support among minority voters
Washingon Post via The Salt Lake Tribune | 11/07/2008 | Karl Vick and Ashley Surdin
Posted on 11/08/2008 11:07:36 PM PST by TheDon
Edited on 11/09/2008 5:15:00 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128600/posts
Blacks Are More Socially Conservative Than Barack Obama
U.S. News & World Report | November 07, 2008 | Bonnie Erbe
Posted on 11/08/2008 12:07:13 AM PST by nickcarraway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128513/posts
Gays, blacks divided on Proposition 8
Los Angeles Times (aka Daily Worker of the Left Coast)
7 November 2008 | Cara Mia DiMassa and Jessica Garrison
Posted on 11/07/2008 10:18:17 PM PST by libsmacker75
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128488/posts
Same-sex marriage bans paradoxical in historic election
CNN | Friday, November 7, 2008
Posted on 11/07/2008 9:25:39 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128466/posts
Marriage Unites as Politics Divides the Nation
Concerned Women for America | 11/7/08 | Janice Shaw Crouse
Posted on 11/09/2008 12:52:43 PM PST by wagglebee
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128946/posts
-churches-
Gay anarchist ‘action’ hits church (pics)
lansingcitypulse | 11/10/08
Posted on 11/10/2008 4:18:02 PM PST by Ladycalif
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2129679/posts
Church Vandalized With ‘No On 8’ Tags
KCRA 3 News | November 7, 2008 | KCRA
Posted on 11/08/2008 12:41:39 AM PST by kaehurowing
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128519/posts
Prop. 8 protests continue in O.C. [Homosexuals Harrass Christians]
Orange County Register | November 9, 2008 | CINDY CARCAMO and ROSALBA RUIZ
Posted on 11/09/2008 1:30:10 PM PST by kaehurowing
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2128962/posts
Same-Sex “Marriage” Supporters Furious at CA Loss
(Violent Threats Against Mormons & Catholics)
LifeSiteNews | 11/6/2008 | Kathleen Gilbert
Posted on 11/07/2008 2:51:38 PM PST by Pyro7480
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128210/posts
Catholics Appalled at Anti-Mormon Slur
You Tube | November 7, 2008 | John Paul the Great Cathoilc University
Posted on 11/07/2008 6:48:15 PM PST by It’s me
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128385/posts
L.A. Members of South Central Churches Speak Out in Support of Prop 8 (No gay marriage)
KABC Channel 7 News Video | November 7, 2008
Posted on 11/08/2008 12:28:44 AM PST by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128517/posts
LDS official lauds work for California’s Prop. 8
Deseret News | November 6, 2008 | Carrie A. Moore
Posted on 11/07/2008 7:41:31 AM PST by greyfoxx39
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2127864/posts
-boycott-
List of Corporate Sponsors Helping To Overturn Prop 8 In California
Posted on 11/06/2008 5:05:08 PM PST by TruthHound
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2127458/posts
List includes: Allstate Insurance, American Airlines, Coors Beer, Fiji Water, HealthNet, Nordstrom, Showtime, Tylenol PM, Warner Brothers Studios, Wells Fargo Bank — http://www.InvalidateProp8.org/
-all politics is local-
Schwarzenegger tells backers of gay marriage: Don’t give up
(Arnold, just admit you’re a Democrat!)
la times | 11/9/2008 | Michael Rothfeld and Victoria Kim
Posted on 11/09/2008 3:58:42 PM PST by tobyhill
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2129040/posts
Arnold Schwarzenegger suggests California Supreme Court
should overturn Proposition 8
Gay Socialites | 11/09/2008 | Staff
Posted on 11/09/2008 9:29:54 PM PST by Ol’ Sparky
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2129203/posts
Calif. gov.: ‘We will maybe undo’ Prop 8
United Press International | November 10, 2008
Posted on 11/10/2008 8:03:59 AM PST by Zakeet
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2129418/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/prop8/index
marriage amendment promoters nationwide can claim 30 out of 30 victories. They are undefeated. The pro-homosexual lobby, however, can claim no electoral victory. Rather it has relied on judicial ruling that impose same-sex "marriage" on states without any popular vote. Their record is now 2 out of 3.Same is in store for the 2nd Amendment. The 1st Amendment has been worked over by so-called activist judges, and the so-called Fairness Doctrine, if reimposed, will dispense with the what's left of it.
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