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The Death of the American Idea (Mark Steyn)
NRO ^ | 10/10/2009 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/10/2008 8:12:24 AM PST by Uncledave

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1 posted on 11/10/2008 8:12:24 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave
‘Give me liberty or give me death!”

“Live free or die!”

Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie!!!

2 posted on 11/10/2008 8:16:17 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Uncledave
If you went back to the end of the 19th century and suggested to, say, William McKinley that one day Americans would find themselves choosing between a candidate promising to guarantee your mortgage and a candidate promising to give “tax cuts” to millions of people who pay no taxes he would scoff at you for concocting some patently absurd H G Wells dystopian fantasy.

If you went back to February 2008 and told me that Americans were seriously going to elect a Marxist in favor of infanticide, I would have scoffed at you. In fact, I scoffed at my husband at 8PM Tuesday evening when he told me it was actually taking place.

3 posted on 11/10/2008 8:16:43 AM PST by Elvina ( "You and I have a rendezvous with destiny."--Ronald Reagan 10/27/64)
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To: Uncledave
Give me liberty or give me welfare!!!

(Or at least give me a country in which nobody has more than I have because it makes me feel bad when they do!)

4 posted on 11/10/2008 8:20:35 AM PST by Maceman (If you're not getting a tax cut, you're getting a pay cut.)
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To: Uncledave

Barack Obama (D-People Magazine)


5 posted on 11/10/2008 8:21:41 AM PST by ChicagahAl (So your bumper sticker says: "Don't blame me, I didn't vote!"? Duh!)
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To: Uncledave

What a load of crap.


6 posted on 11/10/2008 8:23:33 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
It's going to be more like:

" Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose"

That may be where we end up...but the good side is, when you have nothing left to lose, is when the fight begins.
7 posted on 11/10/2008 8:24:08 AM PST by FrankR (Operation Tightbelt...let's see how the economy runs when Conservatives spend less...)
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To: Uncledave

Obama Wins, Economy’s Doomed:

Peter Schiff, president of Euro Pacific Capital and author of ‘The Little Book of Bull Moves in Bear Markets,’ says a big-government Obama administration will lead to an economic collapse on par with the Great Depression.
Sun 11/09/08 04:59 AM EST — Gregg Greenberg

Check the video linked below to really make your day, week, month, year, decade:

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/video/strategysession/10446771.html?cm_ven=YAHOOV&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA


8 posted on 11/10/2008 8:24:15 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Do we trust 0W0N$PENDALOT, Pelo$i, Barnie, Dodd & Reid to leave our 401k's/IRA's alone?)
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To: Elvina

I played poker with a group saturday night that included three White males in their twenties, all voted for Obama and not a one knew anything about Obama’s programs.

They voted for him because it was cool to do so.


9 posted on 11/10/2008 8:25:55 AM PST by blam
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To: Uncledave

My sentiments exactly. I see no current reason to be optimistic during my lifetime that our nation will return to its status as a democracy as I once knew it. The Nanny Train is picking up momentum.(And I never thought I’d see the day I’d join the gloom and doom crowd.) More pie will be the new battle cry.


10 posted on 11/10/2008 8:26:21 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Uncledave

An idea spurs a country based on freedom. With freedom comes prosperity for those who are industrious. With prosperity comes luxury. With luxury comes envy. With envy comes bitterness and bitterness brings Obama.

Why do we think we can reform this? There has never been a party who reduced the size of governemnt. Republicans increased the size of government.

Only sesccession. Who said bigger is better, maybe the ladies like the fulfilling feeling but as a society, we’re getting plugged hard. So, a small republic would be more responsive to voters and a chance to start all over.

Of course, we could always turn to our churches and shuls and start praying and frumming again and understand that government is not there to fulfill our quotient for happiness.

Hard times a’comin’ n’ there ain’t no damn thing we can do about it.


11 posted on 11/10/2008 8:27:23 AM PST by Doug4McCain (I'm sorry for supporting McCain, but I still love Sarah Palin.)
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To: FrankR

I don’t see a revolution happening, but I do see some isolated
killing sprees.


12 posted on 11/10/2008 8:27:46 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: blam

“I played poker with a group saturday night that included three White males in their twenties, all voted for Obama and not a one knew anything about Obama’s programs.

They voted for him because it was cool to do so.”

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How much did you take the dumbasses for?


13 posted on 11/10/2008 8:28:05 AM PST by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Doesn't make any difference who controls Congress, who's in the White House. The government just grows and grows, remorselessly.

Why are we surprised? Thomas Jefferson said that the natural progress of things is for "liberty to yield and government to gain ground."

14 posted on 11/10/2008 8:32:45 AM PST by Terabitten (To all RINOs: You're expendable. Sarah isn't.)
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To: Uncledave

Well written piece. My guess is that the business sector will
soon dry up, cause there is no way they will give their
hard work up to forced “redistribution” designed by the
bureaucratic system.
Obama got elected by the following factors
1) higher than usual turnout in so-called black Americans
2) First time voting young people bombarded by
anti-republican,anti-Bush media for more than 8 years
3) people voting themselves money from someone more successful
than they are.

It would not be hard to predict the end of the United States
as a continuing country. Every country(nation, empire) so far
has eventually fallen.


15 posted on 11/10/2008 8:33:00 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Uncledave
1776 - "Live free or die!"

2008 - "We want Pie!"

16 posted on 11/10/2008 8:33:13 AM PST by ikka
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To: Uncledave

Margaret Thatcher used to talk about the “ratchet effect.” When the Left gets power, she said, they drive everything Left; when the Right gets power, they slow the Leftward drive, perhaps even halt it for a spell; but nothing ever gets moved to the Right.


17 posted on 11/10/2008 8:35:00 AM PST by roses of sharon (The MSM vampires must die.)
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To: roses of sharon
but nothing ever gets moved to the Right.

The only way that parasites and looters and oligarchs may be undone is through bloody revolution. Who really wants that? Best we can come up with is hurting their feelings.

18 posted on 11/10/2008 8:42:38 AM PST by no-s
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To: rwfromkansas
What a load of crap.

What a dose of reality. Finally....after Rush's praise of the "American people doing the right thing" for decades now, a commentator tells the truth.

Conservatives who fool themselves with this silly notion should retire, and let realists take over.
19 posted on 11/10/2008 8:44:00 AM PST by roses of sharon (The MSM vampires must die.)
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To: EyeGuy
"How much did you take the dumbasses for?"

Twenty bucks each.

20 posted on 11/10/2008 8:46:28 AM PST by blam
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