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David Frum to the Religious Right: Drop Dead
www.takimag.com ^ | November 05, 2008 | Tom Piatak

Posted on 11/07/2008 1:07:40 PM PST by Publius804

David Frum to the Religious Right: Drop Dead

Posted by Tom Piatak on November 05, 2008

After weeks of expressing contempt for the delcasse Sarah Palin, David Frum has now expressed his disdain for the voters who liked Palin and who have propelled the GOP to victory after victory since Reagan’s election in 1980, the evangelical Christians and conservative Catholics who vote Republican because of their concern over issues like abortion. According to Frum, such voters need to be jettisoned because “College-educated Americans have come to believe that their money is safe with Democrats--but their values are under threat from Republicans.”

To pursue the burgeoning yuppie class, “will involve painful change, on issues ranging from the environment to abortion. And it will involve potentially even more painful changes of style and tone: toward a future that is less overtly religious, less negligent with policy and less polarizing on social issues.”

What Frum neglects to add is that none of these changes would be “painful” for him, a pro-abortion, non-religious denizen of a tony Washington neighborhood, who has long been uncomfortable with social issues and tolerated religious voters so long as they were willing to vote Republican without expecting much in return and serve as cannon fodder in the wars Frum wants America to fight, but now thinks he has found something better.

The question is, with National Review giving the boot to its founder’s son and Jeffrey Hart, why does it still keep Frum around? Is National Review, too, becoming embarrassed by religious conservatives? (Thanks to John Seiler for pointing out this latest revelation from David Frum).

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; christianvote; conservatism; davidfrum; frum; mccain; moralabsolutes; religiousright; republicans
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To: Publius804

-—“College-educated Americans have come to believe that their money is safe with Democrats—but their values are under threat from Republicans.”-—

I’m college educated, and don’t believe either statement.


201 posted on 11/07/2008 6:25:13 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Election 2010 begins today!)
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To: Alberta's Child
These so-called "neo-conservatives" are pathologically bitter about having their half-@sses conservative lose to an abject mediocrity. And keep in mind . . . that lisping, limp-wristed weirdo Rudy Giuliani was actually their first choice to represent the GOP in 2008.

Who do you suppose Frump was writing this to? Maybe it is an resume enhancer to see if he can hitch a ride in Bama's chariot.

202 posted on 11/07/2008 6:33:45 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Publius804

I would say that religion and morality are vital to the continued existance of our nation, for religious and moral people are what maintain and grow the country.

But... morality cannot and should not be legislated. Is that not one of our prime grievances against Islam? Sharia law is not something I wish to live under.

Yet, some would have us go down that road.


203 posted on 11/07/2008 7:32:58 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Publius804
>>>>Lets be honest shall we - Brooks, Frum, etc display some elements of Christophobia. I don’t know if they are but it sure seems that way

Yes, indeed they do.

204 posted on 11/07/2008 8:53:35 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: wardaddy

Be careful, you are earning wrath.


205 posted on 11/07/2008 9:13:42 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (LIBERALS: We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.)
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To: skully

Sorry; my mistake; Frum is not a conservative. I take back my silly comment. Thanks for the information.


206 posted on 11/07/2008 9:29:45 PM PST by dhuynh73 (Conservative Forever)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
This is the "Big Tent": social conservatives get viciously attacked by social liberals within the Republican Party.

Opposites cannot peacefully coexist.

207 posted on 11/07/2008 10:32:51 PM PST by TheFourthMagi
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To: browardchad

IOW, he don’t know his arse from his elbow...

...and I doubt he ever will.


208 posted on 11/08/2008 3:24:44 AM PST by snuffy smiff (the most pathetic thing about libs is not that they lie-but that they lie unto themselves)
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To: exit82
Let me ask you: who are the GOP leaders who are willing to step aside and let conservatives redeem the party now that the present leadership has totally screwed things up?

If they won't do it willingly, then you FORCE them to. You get the grassroots base of the party organised, and you remove their power structure right out from under them.

209 posted on 11/09/2008 5:23:50 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Harrius Magnus

the only wrath I fret over is God’s

criticizing folks determined to destroy my culture in plain sight is a wrath I can endure


210 posted on 11/09/2008 9:14:08 AM PST by wardaddy (angry white male looking for a modern Danelaw, clinging to guns and religion)
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To: wideawake

Frum isn’t allergic to religion. You’ll never hear him criticize Judaism, for example. But he is hostile to traditional Christianity, as are many other neocons.


211 posted on 11/09/2008 1:39:43 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
If they won't do it willingly, then you FORCE them to. You get the grassroots base of the party organised, and you remove their power structure right out from under them.

My take is , the GOP and RNC power structure is not about to give up their perks and power. They don't care that they have been repudiated nationwide and relegated to minority status in DC for a generation. There's too much pork in the trough to be had, still.

We need to enumerate the principles a new conservative party would fight for, for the country, like Newt's 1994 Contract for America. And then start a new party to get it enacted.

Thanks to George Bush's fiddling while Rome was burning, the GOP brand has been reduced to ashes in the mind of the public.

In the marketplace, when your brand has been destroyed, you start over with a new brand.

Here's the truth. We don't need the GOP--they need us.

We need to stop the abused wife behavior and get the divorce and build a new life.

212 posted on 11/09/2008 3:00:51 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: TheDon

But will the Repubs think out-Democrating the Demos be foolish enough to think that is the way to power? Give the Dems time to implode while we remain true to conservative principles.


213 posted on 11/09/2008 4:16:09 PM PST by pankot
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To: Publius804

David Frum is a clown.

His “brand” of conservatism is what has devastated the GOP in the short term. Frum wants a GOP that advocates for adventurous foreign wars, abandons traditional values, and embraces global warming in their platform. It’s clear that David has spent WAAAAAAAAY too much time in the DC/NY scene because a Republican Party with that platform would never be a viable national party.

Thank GOD David Frum and his ilk have dwindling influence in the party. One good thing about Bush leaving office is that he will take a lot of these big-government “compassionate conservative” neo-conservatives with him. GOOD RIDDENCE!!


214 posted on 11/10/2008 7:14:53 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: NativeNewYorker
“College-educated Americans have come to believe that their money is safe with Democrats..."

College-educated Americans were wrong....again!
215 posted on 03/09/2009 8:25:44 AM PDT by roses of sharon (Pray Hussein fails!)
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To: roses of sharon

—“College-educated Americans have come to believe that their money is safe with Democrats...”-—

I’m a college-educated American, and I say, the heck with that!

And looking at the shape of the stock market, I suspect I’m far from the only one....


216 posted on 03/09/2009 8:32:35 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Beware, world! I haz camera!)
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