Posted on 11/06/2008 10:45:00 AM PST by mbraynard
He and his behavior are low-class in that regard, but also keep in mind that she should stop talking to mainstream media off-the-cuff. Period. It’s over, go home, get back to work and tell the media you’re not available to discuss the election for awhile.
Alaska wins the election: They get to keep their governor.
“I blame McCain for Palin’s loss”
That is absolutely the right way to view this.
Many of us have said that the ticket was inverted. That’s another lesson learned: an inverted ticket is a risky ticket. People may be charmed or fascinated with the bottom of the ticket but they ultimately have to vote for the top.
As Mark Steyn wrote “McCain had a biography but no platform.” True. He really didn’t stand for anything. Sarah was the one who provided the new-found focus on energy independence, children with special needs, and low taxes. She was also excellent at tying some of these together: we need to drill-baby-drill and mine-baby-mine because our dependence on foreign tyrannical regimes is a national security risk. Two campaign themes tied up in one package!
To call McCain an “untraditional conservative” is like calling Obama an “untraditional Christian.” The latter’s not a Christian and the former’s not a conservative. McCain is a moderate DemRat, a counterpart to his good friend Joe Lieberman. According to an article on Drudge this morning breaking down the voting by demographics, few independents voted McCain-Palin. On being asked in an exit poll why he voted for Obama given his lack of experience, one indie said “Well, no one has experience in that job until one has actually done it” (a trite answer but worth repeating, I think, to the MSM in a future debate). When asked why he would vote Hussein when he knew his taxes would go up the indie replied “So? My taxes would probably go up under McCain.”
And he’s right. McCain’s no conservative, traditional or otherwise.
There were also some asinine rumors from the McCain camp that Sarahcuda “didn’t know that Africa was a continent, and not a country” and that she once answered her hotel room door during the campaign wearing only a towel.
I don’t know about the first — and after all, Obama claimed on video that he had visited “all 57 states” — but the second would have been a real story had he claimed that Palin answered the door completely naked. THEN I would have been interested, as well as extremely jealous...
If the Africa bit is true, my answer is this: big deal. Hussein, Biden, and the press were unable to identify the statement “we think spreading the wealth around is good for everybody” as Marxian socialism. And when Hussein claimed that his statement reflected merely his desire to give a “tax cut to the middle class”, the morons in the press believed him. That’s far worse than any mistake or gaffe or slip-up on geography.
Schmidt and Davis sound like a$$hats. It sounds as if they were afraid of Sarah too. Sarah is the OUTSIDER; one of US. She threatens the existence of INSIDERS like THEM.
This campaign seems as if it’s been going on forever, but consider that Sarah has only been part of it for about 8 weeks. Amazing.
Palin is a strong, determined person and a natural politican to the core. But I plan on showing my support by sending an e-mail to her affirming the idea that right now SHE is the frontrunner of a new conservative movement. There are a few other good people, but right now she’s out in front.
It wouldn’t hurt if other FReepers did the same. She’s returning to being a full time governor, mom, and wife, and I doubt she has time to surf alternative media like the Internet to see what her conservative supporters are saying. The base needs to get both information and encouragement to her.
After all, by helping her we ultimately help ourselves.
Troll? I’m a young (under 40) republican, married with three kids. I have voted in every election and always voted republican. You are going to turn off your younger members (and also contributors - I gave to the Freepathon) by accusing them of trolling when they are just offering some opinions on an opinion board. Sorry if my opinions seem ... trollish ... to you, but you might want to take them under consideration when trying to figure out why we just got our a$$es handed to us.
Obviously there is a huge problem in our party and it is worth talking about instead of just dismissing the non-voters as “not real republicans” and new posters - perhaps wanting to get involved for the first time because of what just happened to us - as being trolls.
Sheesh!
That’s what I’m thinking-either The Stormin’ Mormon or someone else who has aspirations in 2012....They’re trying to ‘Quayle” Sarah.
I’m not accusing you of being a troll, I’m saying that people who are that new are often accused of being trolls, especially when they post posts that they know may be perceived as inflamatory.
I can’t say troll with any certainy, but Spera is obviously a RHINO lover. I’d rather lose in 2012 with Sarah (and us) giving it 110% on the attack than our gutless candidate this time around grabbing the mike back and saying what a ‘fine man’ his opponent was. Defeat with honor.
The MSM for the most part succeeded in Quayle-ing Palin. It’s not too late to reverse it. But it’s going to be a long winter in Alaska, no matter how you slice it.
I think that it would be in the party’s best interests to seize on the enthusiasm and name recognition that Palin has generated and create some sort of new voice of opposition to Obama’s presidency “Obama Watch” or something similar.
She could head that group while still being Alaska’s governor and that way she could stay in the national public eye, offering a “voice of the opposition” that an ordinary Senator or Congressman could never do effectively.
A weekly radio and cable TV address of the Republican party or something like that. Imagine a week’s worth of the Rush Limbaugh show condensed into a five minute address each week.
And the gloves are always off.
Sorry if I misundertsood you!
I don’t see what’s inflammatory about talking about why many republicans sat this one out. It seems that they didn’t like McCain, and Palin didn’t do it for them either. I think it’s obvious why they didnt like McCain.
I would never have sat this election out in a million years, and can see a huge difference between McCain and Obama of course. Still and all though - McCain as prez was a thought that scared me not a little (Whereas Obama terrifies me). I just hope we have better candidates and leaders out there - when I see the threads on Newt and Sarah 2012, my heart sinks a little.
Anyway - I’m not a troll or a RINO or a Palin-basher. I just want to know what registered repubs thought about her as a whole, from an unbiased perspective - I wish the RNC could do a poll and find out. And I would like to see any polls that showed she influenced non-repubs to accept our ticket. I don’t think her conservatism really drew undecideds to her. If you say that is because the media bashed her - well, why can’t they bash her again in 2012? i can just see the big hoopla now as they “bring Fey out of retirement” to take on Sarah again.
Anyway... I’m not trying to be inflammatory here, just really wanting to talk about what happened and what we can do about it all.
Agreed. Sarah would use every weapon at her disposal, cut Obama down to size in jeans and rolled up sleeves and smile while doing it.
What??? I’m totally disgusted by McCain as well, believe me. Why lose with Sarah in 2012 when we could possibly win with a stronger candidate, equally as conservative? This is my only point: are there other conservatives out there who are possibilities? I think we would make a mistake staking all of our hopes on Sarah, because of the points I have mentioned in my previous posts.
How am I becoming a RINO out of all this, LOL??
A leftist just sent me the sick rumors about Palin. The political staff who sent them out are beyond reprehensible. McCain himself should get involved and denounce them as the lies they are.
Here was my response to the leftist:
“Gee, reading this trash, you think she doesn’t know how to tie her own shoes. She beat Biden hands down in the one debate and some of the stuff here is asinine and wouldn’t be believable if said about a clown. Too bad the left has no analytical abilities left.”
I then went on to explain the struggle for 2012 and attached the article I saw you posted, so thanks for that.
And one of the first things we can do is to start spreading the news from an ABC article posted here earlier today:
All the states in the U.S. are in recession or nearing recession EXCEPT ONE...ALASKA. And that’s ENTIRELY because of Sarah Palin’s pro-growth, pro-economic freedom policies. It’s not because “there’s oil in Alaska.” The mere presence of oil doesn’t mean a thing if you can’t drill for it economically and if you can’t re-invest profts after having sold it.
Japan, for example, has almost no natural resources worth speaking of, yet when it followed pro-growth, pro-economic freedom policies, it prospered.
Now that we are entering a recession, expect the worst: expect the demRat government to meddle, and as a result, expect the real possibility of a full-fledged depression. Big Government advocates like depressions because it provides excuses for keeping themselves in power for as long as possible. Our coming depression will provide the needed excuse for creating the institutions of a European-style welfare state.
That Sarah’s state is the ONLY state not undergoing economic decay is not just a talking point; it’s a SHOUTING POINT.
It’s an excellent start for positioning her as a frontrunner in the New Conservative Movement.
Finally, as a bit of reverse psychology: Steyn always points out how important language is, and who controls it. Who gets to define things. We should utilize linguistic “cross-dressing” as much as possible; i.e., putting conservative concepts into lefty-sounding rhetoric. The right will smile in amusement and the left will simply go nuts since they will have to argue against their own vocabulary. For example, in an issue such as gun control, the right could point out that such laws make it difficult or impossible for minority small-business owners in high-risk neighborhoods to defend themselves. “How could you possibly support such a racist policy?”
For this reason, I suggest that we brand this New Conservative Movement with a name that smacks of liberalism but which is really conservatism. Perhaps “The New Freedom Movement”: It’s all about conservation and being unselfish: rather than selfishly claiming all that redistributed wealth for yourself, we encourage all able-bodied members of the middle class to sacrifice their welfare checks by accepting a large cut in their taxes and getting to keep all their income. This gets them OFF the welfare rolls and frees up more welfare for those who really need it (such as the very wealthy and the very poor).
FReepers, this is no different from what Hussein did with his redistributionist/socialist schemes. He cross-dressed it into calling it a “tax cut for the middle class.” You recognized it only upon laborious intellectual analysis (taking about 20 seconds, but still laborious). It’s an effective technique in selling a platform and there’s no reason we shouldn’t be doing the same thing.
Seems to me I’d read or heard somewhere that Obama got more $$ from Wall Street than McCain did - can anyone back that up from an irrefutable source?
Good Post, GoodDay!
Please look at what you just said. Did Rush believe the actual rumors about Sarah? Or that someone was spreading rumors? Big difference.
It is no rumor that someone was spreading rumors. That is/was a fact as we all heard what was reported on Fox.
Me too.
LLS
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