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Tropical Storm Paloma [Gulf of Mexico/Atlantic storm]
National Hurricane Center - Forecast Discussion TS Paloma ^ | November 6, 2008

Posted on 11/06/2008 5:04:42 AM PST by topher

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WTNT42 KNHC 060858
TCDAT2
TROPICAL STORM PALOMA DISCUSSION NUMBER   3
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL172008
400 AM EST THU NOV 06 2008
 
AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INVESTIGATING
TROPICAL DEPRESSION SEVENTEEN FOUND 850 MB FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS OF
46 KT ABOUT 20 N MI NORTHWEST OF THE CENTER...AND REPORTED THAT THE
CENTRAL PRESSURE HAD DROPPED TO 1000 MB.  SATELLITE IMAGERY IS
SHOWING INCREASING ORGANIZATION...WITH CLOUD TOPS COLDER THAN -80C
OCCURRING JUST WEST OF THE CENTER.  BASED ON THE FLIGHT-LEVEL
WINDS...THE DEPRESSION IS UPGRADED TO TROPICAL STORM PALOMA WITH
35-KT WINDS.  IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE SFMR ESTIMATED SURFACE
WINDS IN EXCESS OF 50 KT IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT.  HOWEVER...
THESE WINDS APPEAR SUSPECT DUE TO HEAVY RAIN AND SHOALING ISSUES.
 
UP TO 72 HR...A COMBINATION OF LIGHT VERTICAL WIND SHEAR...GOOD
ANTICYCLONIC OUTFLOW...AND WARM SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES APPEARS
FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT STRENGTHENING.  THE RAPID INTENSIFICATION
INDEX ATTACHED TO THE SHIPS MODEL SHOWS A 50 PERCENT CHANCE OF
30 KT INTENSIFICATION DURING THE NEXT 24 HR.  THE HWRF FORECASTS A
PEAK INTENSITY 114 KT AND 921 MB IN 72 HR...WHILE THE GFDL
FORECASTS A PEAK INTENSITY OF 97 KT AND 961 MB IN 66 HR.  THE
INTENSITY FORECASTS IS A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE...CALLING FOR A
PEAK INTENSITY OF 90 KT IN 72 HR IN BEST AGREEMENT WITH THE ICON
CONSENSUS MODEL.  AFTER 72 HR...PALOMA IS EXPECTED TO ENCOUNTER
STRONG WESTERLY SHEAR...WITH THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE CYCLONE COULD
SHEAR APART VERTICALLY.  THUS...THE INTENSITY FORECAST CALLS FOR
SIGNIFICANT WEAKENING DURING THAT TIME.
 
THE INITIAL MOTION IS 335/6.  PALOMA IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF A
MID-LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN CARIBBEAN...AND IT IS
LIKELY TO ENCOUNTER THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF STRONG MID/UPPER-LEVEL
WESTERLY FLOW AS IT REACHES 18N IN ABOUT 48 HR.  THIS FLOW SHOULD
CAUSE THE STORM TO TURN NORTHEASTWARD.  THE GUIDANCE MODELS SUGGEST
TWO TRACK FORECAST SCENARIOS.  FIRST...THE GFDL...HWRF... AND BAMD
FORECAST A VERTICALLY DEEP HURRICANE TO MOVE QUICKLY NORTHEAST
ACROSS CUBA AND THE BAHAMAS INTO THE ATLANTIC.  ON THE OTHER
HAND...THE GFS... NOGAPS...UKMET...ECMWF...AND CANADIAN MODELS ALL
SHOW PALOMA SHEARING APART AFTER 72 HR AS IT MOVES NORTHEASTWARD...
WITH THE REMNANT LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION TURNING WESTWARD OR
NORTHWESTWARD ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF A LOW-LEVEL RIDGE.  THE NOGAPS
SHOWS THE MOST WESTWARD TRACK...KEEPING PALOMA WEST OF THE CAYMAN
ISLANDS.  THE GFS IS THE EASTERNMOST OF THIS SET OF SOLUTIONS...
SHOWING THE CENTER REACHING THE BAHAMAS.  SINCE THE INTENSITY
FORECAST IS FOR A STRONG AND VERTICALLY DEEP HURRICANE AT 72 HR...
THE TRACK FORECAST LEANS TOWARD THE GFDL/HWRF/BAMD SCENARIO. 
HOWEVER...THE FORECAST FORWARD SPEED AFTER 72 HR WILL BE SLOWER
THAN WHAT THOSE MODELS ARE FORECASTING.
 
IF THE CURRENT MOTION AND STRUCTURE TRENDS CONTINUE...THE TROPICAL
STORM-FORCE WINDS ARE LIKELY TO STAY OFF THE COASTS OF NICARAGUA
AND HONDURAS.  HOWEVER...THOSE WINDS COULD SPREAD ONSHORE IF THE
STORM MAKES A LEFT TURN OR GROWS IN SIZE FASTER THAN CURRENTLY
FORECAST.
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
 
INITIAL      06/0900Z 15.1N  82.2W    35 KT
 12HR VT     06/1800Z 15.8N  82.6W    45 KT
 24HR VT     07/0600Z 16.6N  82.9W    55 KT
 36HR VT     07/1800Z 17.5N  83.2W    65 KT
 48HR VT     08/0600Z 18.5N  82.8W    75 KT
 72HR VT     09/0600Z 20.0N  81.0W    90 KT
 96HR VT     10/0600Z 22.0N  78.0W    65 KT...INLAND OVER CUBA
120HR VT     11/0600Z 25.0N  73.0W    45 KT...OVER WATER
 
$$
FORECASTER BEVEN

 


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Headed for Cuba. It is to honor President-Elect Barack Obama as well as his friend Bill Ayers.

Note that President-Elect Barack Obama's cousin named his son Fidel Castro Odinga

What a great honor for the Obama family -- [/sarcasm off]

1 posted on 11/06/2008 5:04:43 AM PST by topher
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To: topher
Will people now say things are "President-Elect Obama's" fault?
2 posted on 11/06/2008 5:05:28 AM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher
Forecast to hit Cuba about 96 hours from now with 90 knot winds.

That would make it a hurricane after the end of Hurricane Season...

3 posted on 11/06/2008 5:06:36 AM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher

This is clearly Bush’s fault.


4 posted on 11/06/2008 5:08:05 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: topher

Handover for the blame is on 20 Jan 09.


5 posted on 11/06/2008 5:08:41 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: topher

“... INTO THE ATLANTIC.”

Amateurs. Rove knew how to throw a real party.


6 posted on 11/06/2008 5:11:59 AM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Please understand I am being sarcastic to release some post election stress syndrome...

On a more serious note, I will be praying for people affected by the storm.

It may not intensify much or be much of anything...

7 posted on 11/06/2008 5:12:34 AM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Clearly Bush’s fault, you forgot, clearly white America’s fault too, like Huricane Katrina....


8 posted on 11/06/2008 5:14:18 AM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: topher

That was exactly my first thought. One silver lining to the disaster last Tuesday is that we won’t have to listen ***as much*** to the “Blame everything on Bush” crowd anymore.


9 posted on 11/06/2008 5:15:23 AM PST by Dan in Wichita
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To: topher
That would make it a hurricane after the end of Hurricane Season...

Time change confused it.

10 posted on 11/06/2008 5:16:12 AM PST by lonestar
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To: lonestar
The storm does not know how to fall back, then...
11 posted on 11/06/2008 5:17:40 AM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher
... post election stress syndrome ...

I should be careful with phrases. This forms the initials:

P.E.S.S.

(Fairly close to p!ss)

12 posted on 11/06/2008 5:19:42 AM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Dan in Wichita
One silver lining to the disaster last Tuesday is that we won’t have to listen ***as much*** to the “Blame everything on Bush” crowd anymore.

Oh, I don't know about that...

Hurricane? It's because of the environmental mess left for Obama by Bush...

Economy? In tatters due to years of mismanagement by Bush... Obama will save us...

Terrorist Attack? They hate us because Bush...

Teddy Bear infected with head lice? If Bush had only...

13 posted on 11/06/2008 5:40:11 AM PST by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“This is clearly Bush’s fault.”

It’s Obama/Biden’s fault. What is he going to do about the weather? Obama doesn’t care about Black, White and Hispanic people hit by Hurricane Paloma!


14 posted on 11/06/2008 5:46:05 AM PST by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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What is he going to do about the weather?

Perhaps a new entitlement program would solve the problem. Say, one that would pay for your mortgage and gas?

15 posted on 11/06/2008 6:04:56 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: topher
That would make it a hurricane after the end of Hurricane Season...

It is because of Global Cooling.

16 posted on 11/06/2008 7:29:03 AM PST by TYVets
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To: topher
Hope it doesn't spring forward this direction!

(we're still cleaning up after Ike!)

17 posted on 11/06/2008 7:44:08 AM PST by lonestar
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To: pgyanke

Head lice? LOL! Yes, you’re probably right. You can bet that I’ll be a charter member of the Blame Obama club. Heck I might even become president of the club.


18 posted on 11/06/2008 8:28:51 AM PST by Dan in Wichita
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To: Dan in Wichita

... might want to update your homepage...


19 posted on 11/06/2008 8:33:18 AM PST by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: pgyanke

Yes, you’re right, thank you! It has been almost 8 years since I last visited my profile page. My girls have sure grown up since then... my how time flies.


20 posted on 11/06/2008 9:01:35 AM PST by Dan in Wichita
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