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To: calex59

First of all I do not believe that the rat leadership is anywhere near as moderate as the people who vote for them and will act to pursue their agenda with the open support of the media. Also, I do not believe that there will be the great upheaval you predict if they do this. The margines of support for and against homosexual “marriage” have been steadily closing. Maybe they won’t go for “marriage” immediately but some form of federal “domestic partnership” could pass easily and with little opposition and from there it is a small step to “marriage”.

Secondly, I expect that they will give priority to doing everything possible to ensure that they never lose their majority which would include citizenship for millions of illegals, stifling of political opposition with campaign finance reform, hate crimes laws and the fairness doctrine and confirming judges who agree with them and will rule based on political persuasion and not the constitution. So they could just as easily pass the matter to the federal judiciary and get this enacted from the bench. They will certainly act quickly to pack the courts with their buddies so this might not take all that long to accomplish.

Third, you make assumptions about my beliefs that are quite false. I am not giving up on anything and your little rant at the end of your post is, unfortunately, all too typical of a certain type of freeper who simply opens fire without first pausing to consider the situation. But I can see the signs of the times and they are not encouraging. My main hope is that once they find themselves in the majority the rats will fracture and slow themselves down a bit. They have maintained a unified front while in the minority but this may change. There are many disparate groups in that party and their interests do not always coincide ( such as unions/environmentalists, black voters who generally adhere to traditional values/gay rights zealots).

Fourth, why does anyone assume that the rats will abide by the current senate rules and allow the filibuster to be used to block their agenda? What is to stop them from adopting their own version of the “nuclear option” and leaving the Republicans impotent? The media will not stop them but will most likely give them support and conservative oppostion will be ignored or misrepresented and villified.

My real hope is that things rarely actually become as bad - or good - as they initially appear they will. But sometimes they do. The rats will certainly claim a mandate and will act to put their agenda in place very quickly knowing that such “mandates” have a short shelf life. Rewarding their biggest donors, among whom are certainly homosexuals, will be among the first things they will do.


29 posted on 11/05/2008 9:13:44 AM PST by scory
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To: scory

Good points...Your right, there is no guarantee about the future of this country, even with a Republican president.
You mess with people’s money, children and freedom I GUARANTEE Americans will not sit idly by.However, for the moment, We need to calm down, take it one day at a time and go from there.

I don’t like where this is heading either, but believe me America will be America again. Stop fighting amongst ourselves because that’s what communists thrive on...”divide and conquer”....don’t give into their “tricks”. I for one believe the people will take this country back!!!


30 posted on 11/05/2008 9:49:05 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: scory
First of all I do not believe that the rat leadership is anywhere near as moderate as the people who vote for them and will act to pursue their agenda with the open support of the media.

I never said I thought the dem leaders were moderate, I don't, I said the majority of people, even though they voted for Bozo, are more to the right then the election would have people believe and that they will fight the "freedom of choice" act, whether they are right or left wing.

I think Bozo will not try to enact extremely harsh laws until the second term, then he will go all out and even attempt to make himself President for life. People will not stand for it, the military will not stand for it, that is why he will try to place as many left wing generals and other officers in command that he can in his first term.

People who do not think an armed revolt will occur with all bozo's BS, simply do not know the American people very well. The people might not win, but they will not go without a fight, period.

31 posted on 11/05/2008 10:24:35 AM PST by calex59
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