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To: WOSG

“Errr, the GOP primary VOTERS made the decision. I hate these comments that make it sound like it wasnt decided by voters. It was. And yes, the establishment candidate might get more money, but that never sways informed voters.
I’m sorry the Demo won and I’m sory you didnt put the other candidate up there.”

Technically speaking, you’re correct. Sarah lost the primary. But why? The establishment wanted the RINO, the establishment was not going to help Steelman at all. Kit Bond himself even turned his back on her because Bond is not Conservative...he wasn’t as governor and he hasn’t been as Senator.

Still, the voters could have ignored the establishment and voted for Steelman. But that is the fundamental problem here in Missouri, mainly in KC and St. Louis. The establishment is filled with moderates and RINOs. I am workig on trying to change that within the system.

The so called Young Republicans here in Jackson County are more worried about their monthly meetings at the local tavern and having the establishment speakers come in and babble than they are about the actual elections. That sort of attitude has to be changed and changed quickly if we are to throw off the RINO establishment.

Jackson county has to change the leadership at the top of the party. The Republicans didn’t even field candidates in some races, including my state district. The dem won by default. I tried, along time ago, to run for that very seat and was told by the man still at the head of the Jackson County Repub Party that I would not get their support because I hadn’t “paid my dues” yet. In other words, it’s not who is best qualified but whose turn it is this year. Until that man is ousted, nothing will change and KC will continue to elect dems to city, county, state, and fed offices.

It’s a lot of work but I know Conservatives exist in KC because I am one.


47 posted on 11/05/2008 3:42:13 PM PST by MissouriConservative (If My people, who are called by My Name, will humble themselves and pray...2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: MissouriConservative

“Technically speaking, you’re correct. Sarah lost the primary. But why? The establishment wanted the RINO, the establishment was not going to help Steelman at all. Kit Bond himself even turned his back on her because Bond is not Conservative...he wasn’t as governor and he hasn’t been as Senator”

You’re from Missouri and I’m not so I wont dispute your points, but I just want to say that every candidate is responsible for their own campaign. Good candidates and good races win their own campaigns. Conservatives shouldnt expect RINO or establishment help, just as conservative groups dont help RINOs in primaries.
I frankly dont think endorsements matter much and it isnt owed something. We see it everywhere that there are more moderate establishment types and some more conservatives.

“Jackson county has to change the leadership at the top of the party. The Republicans didn’t even field candidates in some races, including my state district. The dem won by default. I tried, along time ago, to run for that very seat and was told by the man still at the head of the Jackson County Repub Party that I would not get their support because I hadn’t “paid my dues” yet. In other words, it’s not who is best qualified but whose turn it is this year. Until that man is ousted, nothing will change and KC will continue to elect dems to city, county, state, and fed offices.

It’s a lot of work but I know Conservatives exist in KC because I am one.”

We had the exact same problem here in our county, now turning more Democrat over 8 years of a leader who was a micro-manager & mod squad type who was at odds with RR grassroots. Well, the grassroots up and died and we started losing races. Now we are down to a single Republican in the whole county. We replaced the county chair and have a healthier county party, but have a lot more work to do.

BTW, there is nothing stopping you from running for a seat if there is no other primary contender. You just file, right?
I have a blueprint for taking a county party back. Run for county chair and take the party back.


48 posted on 11/05/2008 4:10:10 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM - Change we need: Replace the Democrat Congress)
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To: MissouriConservative

Take a look at this:

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2008/11/no-place-to-go-but-up-strategy-for.html

(I forget if I linked you to this)


67 posted on 11/06/2008 9:45:05 AM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM - Change we need: Replace the Democrat Congress)
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To: MissouriConservative

Hulshof’s a RINO ? What ? Even if we had gotten Steelman, she likely would’ve lost because of the climate. We had solid candidates for all the open and Dem-held statewide offices and only Kinder as an incumbent survived.


71 posted on 11/06/2008 10:30:10 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: MissouriConservative

So man up and run against the Dem in two years.

You don’t need permission. All talk?


78 posted on 11/10/2008 3:30:03 AM PST by kcdude
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