Posted on 11/04/2008 10:20:52 PM PST by paudio
But he didn't really reach out to the other conservative factions until the election.
“The GOP and GWB have kept our borders open which is changing the composition of our electorate. “
That is so obvious, and yet the Stupid Party will never learn. Dubya’s true legacy will be the replacement of the American people by the 3rd world.
Republicans were swept to majority power under promises to sharply reduce the power of centralized governement including the Contract with America. They explictly promised term limits, welfare reform, balancing the budget, auditing congressional laws to eliminate waste and objectively measure the compliance costs of the laws they passed, tort reform to remove out-of-control lawsuit. I seem to remember discussion of eliminating the Department of Education as well.
OK, the Republicans did pass welfare reform. But how many of these winning issues were just silently neglected after the election was over? When the Republicans had control of all three branches of government, they increased rather than reduced the power of the federal government, and expanded the very institutions they had earlier proposed eliminating.
And the sad part is that the ideas are so far removed from todays GOP that even trying to say things like “I support States Rights” sounds positively neanderthal.
Small government is a winning and unifying theme. It supports free-market Republicans directly. Social conservatives are free from federal interference in their religions, particularly if abortion “should be left to the states to decide”. And having a small government doesn’t preclude us from having a well-funded military committed to its mission.
I’d also echo that in the long term our nation can not survive if the liberals control our schools, our media, and our political infrastructure. We need more conservative and libertarian think-thanks, additional media outlets (how about a genuine right-wing TV station?), and to somehow encourage more right-wingers to get PhDs and take back our colleges.
I don’t think it’s a nonsense. There are several ladies in my ‘conservative church’ (LCMS) that don’t believe in abortion but want big government taking care. Or the other way around: I know some people who want small government but don’t care about abortion.
Exactly. You see it on this board every day.
I called my boss the very day that Phil Gramm made that idiotic "nation of whiners" comment...and told him that we were done.
Stupid, arrogant, idiots. Reagan inspired people to greater aspirations; the current crop denied the obvious economic realities, and called the electorate names.
And then the Bush regime came up with the bailout plan, complete with a shifty-eyed mob boss (who was a large part of the problem), demanding that those who had caused the problem be paid their million dollar bonuses.
There was a coup in this country...it occurred six weeks ago.
I take solace in the fact that there are a few more like-minds at some other websites. PC has become pervasive even in conservative circles thanks to the malign influence of some former trotskyites.
I will say this. The Republican Party deserved to be fired by the American people.
Of course when you fire somebody, at the time you have no guarantee that their eventual replacement will be any better. But you fire them anyway.
I was just reading an article where Obama actually increased with Jews and Latinos and every other “minority” and may have taken majority Catholics
good lord
That doesn’t surprise me. It fits with what I’ve observed in southern California.
That's assuming 'traditional Republicans' were sitting out. I doubt that's the case. In some cases, they probably simply voted for 0bama, or they voted but 0bama's numbers are so great.
Excuse me, but the Democrat party deserved to be fired a much longer time ago, and still deserved to be fired today.......
We should clean the leadership of the RNC up. We are going to real people. People like Sarah and Joe the plumber. To beat Obama, you are going to have to get away from the beltway.
I heard someone say we should take on the mantel of DC reformist. I like this idea. I think the first think we should champion is foreign interest money that buys our politicians off. Start pointing fingers at elected officials who accept money from China and other Countries. Something like that. Grab a issue that a Reagan Democrat could believe in too.
I don't know what will work for sure. I do know that the RINO couldn't pull enough demorats away.
Just in case you're simply a newbie looking for discussion, as opposed to a troll...
In 2008, there was no 72 hour Republican blitz. Let me be clear about the straw which broke the camel's GOP's back: McCain's support for the pork ladened bailout package.
We were successfully countering the media's false image of Obama, one door knock at a time; until that point. Voters absolutely resented the manner which the earmarked bill was ram-rodded through the Senate, devoid of debate! The world most deliberate body? My a$$!
Add the House ceding their legislative Constitutional authority to the executive branch, to boot! And it was at that point undecideds became hostile towards GOP canvassers like me. Undecideds understood McCain's support for the bailout was not based upon conservative ideals. McCain was behaving like a Democrat. And each and every day Ohio voters absorbed a mass media created image of Obama.
Thanks to McCain-Feingold limitations, mass media now has unchecked power. Does anybody remember why we opposed McCain-Feingold?
Cheers,
OLA
We should clean the leadership of the RNC up. We are going to real people. People like Sarah and Joe the plumber. To beat Obama, you are going to have to get away from the beltway.
I heard someone say we should take on the mantel of DC reformist. I like this idea. I think the first think we should champion is foreign interest money that buys our politicians off. Start pointing fingers at elected officials who accept money from China and other Countries. Something like that. Grab a issue that a Reagan Democrat could believe in too.
I don't know what will work for sure. I do know that the RINO couldn't pull enough demorats away.
Exactly! No more DC politicians with their polished speeches and their talking points. We need down to earth real conservative folks that talk about conservative issues near and dear to all of us.
McCain ended up being hoisted on his own petard.
No, "we" will not. I will seek my duty elsewhere. The Goldwaterites were correct, it seems to me. As a Reaganite, I intend to correct that error.
I will not be back, barring a full scale commitment to Conservatism on the part of the entire party from the ground up (which will not happen). My efforts will go toward real and consistent Conservative leadership.
A government that is powerful enough to “take care” of people is strong enough to take away their liberty.
You seem caught up with the single issue of abortion. If, as you say, there are many small government types who don’t care about abortion, even though Roe v Wade is a big government power grab, what’s the big deal? If they don’t care about it one way or the other, but most of their political bedfellows (the social conservatives) do, what’s so horrible about working to help the team? Like you wrote, if abortion doesn’t really matter to them, but they want small government, what is the better approach? Join with liberals who are diametrically opposed to small government on nearly every issue, or work with social conservatives (who are mostly small government) to include helping them get what they feel is important?
You can’t just expect social conservatives to work on the things you deem important without it being a two-way street.
BTW - I need to get a bumper sticker that say 013013. That should be Obama’s last day in office.
There are those that say the world is going to end in 2012. Maybe the good Lord will look at all the damage Obama will do and say OK that's enough suffering and end the world.
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