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Journalists in Denial Over Link Between Industry Collapse, Liberal Bias
CNS News ^ | November 03, 2008 | Dan Gainor

Posted on 11/03/2008 9:43:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will not give one damn dime to the MSM. I boycott their lies and smears. I boycott those businesses that support the MSM by placing ads with them. I guess I am what Obama would call, “selfish”, and am proud of it!


21 posted on 11/03/2008 10:40:50 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: zwerni
Amen...maybe for once the marketplace is cleaning up superfluous supply. Unless, of course, it may get to the point that the government has to bail them out, too.

Just can't wait to see the same thing happen to the MSM broadcasters like Matthews, Williams, Oberman, Letterman, Maher, etc., who will have no one to scorn, criticize, crucify, or mock with an untouchable black man running the country and no rascally Republicans on the mainstage. What are they going to do for material? Replay the same old stuff demonizing Bush?

22 posted on 11/03/2008 10:56:38 PM PST by MHT
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To: CaribouCrossing

Their behavior during this election will not be ignored or accepted. They will pay the consquences for their actions. What they have done is unacceptable, and intolerable. After this is all over, then WE the people need to turn our attention to them.


23 posted on 11/03/2008 11:10:14 PM PST by Shelia084
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Evening News Ratings
November 1980 to November 2005

Evening News Viewership
November 1980 to November 2005

From Journalism.org - The State of the News Media.

24 posted on 11/04/2008 1:15:14 AM PST by Zakeet (Obama-Pelosi-Reid -- the Axis of Taxes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Look we all know the MSM sucks and has for a long time. But why? Why are so many in the Media liberal to far left? What causes this? Was it always so?
I know the types of people who work for the Washington Post and the NY Times. I went to school with a number of them. They are the type of person who thinks they are smart but really aren’t. Most of the reporters and writers of the MSM were liberal before the went to J-school. They went into Journalism to PROMOTE liberal causes, not because they were really interested in real quality Journalism. The Schools of Journalism are a joke. The dummest people major in Journalism. The difference between the kids in Journalism and Physics couldn’t be greater.
So where do we go from here? That’s an interesting question but I really think the blogs are on to something. I read far more interesting and intelligent articles on the blogs than I read than in the MSM. The blogs and talk radio are the future but we must also focus on reporting. We need fair and objective reporting. This won’t be easy and it’s a big task. It’s the subject of future posts.


25 posted on 11/04/2008 1:47:54 AM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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The dummest people major in Journalism

True, but they are often better spellers. ;-)

26 posted on 11/04/2008 1:52:50 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa
The dummest people major in Journalism
True, but they are often better spellers. ;-)


Yes I know it should be dumbest and not dummest but I'm typing on my laptop tonight and not my standard keyboard. The FR spell check is garbage and lots of words slip through that are spelled wrong. I usually don't read my posts and check for spelling. I'm actually a decent speller but not such a great typist.
27 posted on 11/04/2008 2:00:56 AM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In a free market, ideas sell...not propaganda.


28 posted on 11/04/2008 3:14:25 AM PST by hershey
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Not a bad gig, just regurgitating government “news” releases to the unwashed masses.

That's what they do now with the DNC talking points, so they're used to it.

29 posted on 11/04/2008 3:23:55 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This election is a referendum on MSM


30 posted on 11/04/2008 3:38:16 AM PST by DocT111
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If one paper, any one of them, had the guts to stand up and say, “OK, we were wrong, we blew it, we lost track of what a newspaper is supposed to do and tried to turn the news into what we thought it should be.”

If that newspaper were to return to the basic newswriting tenets that I learned in my freshman year. Who, why, what, when, where, how... write it out in clear language that says exactly what happened and nothing else.

If they swore on a stack of Bibles that there would be no more editorializing anywhere except the editorial page.

If they would stop calling themselves journalists and go back to calling themselves REPORTERS who did nothing but report the news without slanting it any direction either way.

If that newspaper were to put together an editorial board composed in equal measure of hardcore conservatives and liberals who had the sole job of checking each and every news storie for the slightest hint of bias.

Then MAYBE you might have a newspaper that would be worth buying.

I know I wouldn’t mind having something to read on the train if I could be sure that what I was reading was cold hard fact and not the feverish yearning of some freako-pinko with a four-year ticket on a mission to save the world.


31 posted on 11/04/2008 4:25:57 AM PST by Ronin
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To: cp124

.......We are on our way to Mission Accomplished with the print media.......

And yet, they have accomplished their goal of propagandizing Obama and selling the people sos.

They have won.


32 posted on 11/04/2008 4:34:24 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ferengi?.....Probably not, but he sure has the lobes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Every day I hear from readers who tell me the reasons The Post is losing readers and advertising are 1) The Post is too liberal,

Socialist? What socialist, I don't see any socialist.

3) The Post is arrogant

How dare you ask Obama/Biden a question not previously vetted by us. Hey wasn't your brother in law's, aunt's cousin twice removed a contributor to GOPac?

33 posted on 11/04/2008 4:41:38 AM PST by Kudsman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Disagree.

The mainstream media has been overwhelmingly liberal for a very long time. Never exactly predominant, the movements of the 1960s basically eliminated conservatives from newsrooms. Some papers, following their ownership, maintained conservatives in the Op-Ed department, but that was about it.

Social and technological changes in the audience are driving away readers — papers with a conservative editorial stance (there are some!) are ailing as much as liberal papers, and were there any conservative broadcast network evening newscasts, they’d be sucking wind, too.

When you consider online — well, liberal emerging media are thriving. We conservatives may think that online is our territory, but the better view is that we simply have our own nice neighborhood of a much bigger “town,” much of which is very liberal. There would never have been an Obama had it not been for Howard Dean’s pioneering online efforts in 2003, and the determination of liberals to do it better next time.

And beyond “emerging” media, the old mainstream media has already transitioned online in the focus of its efforts. Without the ad sales heft of print, the New York Times will have many fewer employees, but the headcount reduction will be in press employees, drivers, secretaries, etc. Liberal reporters and editors are going to be in full force.


34 posted on 11/04/2008 4:57:44 AM PST by only1percent
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There just aren't enough effete liberals.

35 posted on 11/04/2008 5:59:17 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Contrary to popular belief, I am not looking for a newspaper to write "pro-conservative" stories. what I am looking for as a consumer is to have the "news" in the News section, and the "opinions" on the Op-Ed section.

Too many of these so-called "journalists" are nothing but Op-Ed writers, masquerading as journalists.

Give me the facts as news, and I can then choose to read or ignore the opinions as I see fit.

37 posted on 11/04/2008 11:14:29 AM PST by Fedupwithit (the person who said "the pen is mightier than the sword", was never on either end of a sword)
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